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				Caufield just scored a ton at the U18s. He'll go top 10. Maybe top 6. 
			
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A smaller Kieffer Bellows?
 
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			04-28-2019, 11:23 PM
			
			
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				Flames scouting seems to have gotten remarkably better in recent years. Moving a 26th overall for something in the mid-to-late 30s plus perhaps a fourth rounder? Flames are in "fill the cupboard" mode.  
 
Unless someone really interesting drops into their lap at 26th, that'd be the route I'd go. 
			
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I quite like what's around 26. Not sure there's enough pop for me to trade down. 
 
That is of course said pick isn't moved for roster upgrading. I can see 26 go for a starting goalie. Or the balance of a deal for a really good forward. 
 
I mean of the Zucker deal was any indication, The first is in play.
 
But I really want the Flames to make a pick in round 1 this year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-29-2019, 12:16 PM
			
			
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				there's a lot of talent in the later part of the 1st this year... i hope and pray calgary uses this pick to replenish their forward skill players... at minimum, the player, be it two-way or offensive player, needs to be a very good skater. 
 
McMichael 
Hoglander 
Tomasino 
Kayilev 
Brink  
 
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Hoglander stands out to me as well, very underrated I think and he may jump the rankings. His size worries me a bit, but he's real quick. 
Also big on Kayilev and Brink, I'd be happy with either of these 3 unless we choose to try and trade up. 
 
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			04-29-2019, 01:37 PM
			
			
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				I quite like what's around 26. Not sure there's enough pop for me to trade down.  
 
That is of course said pick isn't moved for roster upgrading. I can see 26 go for a starting goalie. Or the balance of a deal for a really good forward.  
 
I mean of the Zucker deal was any indication, The first is in play. 
 
But I really want the Flames to make a pick in round 1 this year. 
			
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I'd say we know the first was in play but a big part of the valuable it would have gotten back was tied to a possible run this year.  
With that now gone, I don't know that it is as much in play as it was - or perhaps it still is but to address different needs. 
I too want them to make a pick this year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 11:43 AM
			
			
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			04-30-2019, 12:22 PM
			
			
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I'm worried about this I'd take him but not in the first round at least.
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			04-30-2019, 12:30 PM
			
			
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			I hope we draft a high risk/reward player with speed and skill.  Don't draft an "NHL-ready" grinder.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 12:55 PM
			
			
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				I'm worried about this.. I'd take him but not in the first round, maybe the 4th+ 
 
Foot speed is sub par 
Hockey IQ is on the low end 
"C" rated prospect 
Passed over in 2 drafts already 
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He's like a slightly better Hunter Smith at this point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 02:58 PM
			
			
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			Doing some reading up on potential picks at 26. I think that because this draft is so deep at centre, the Flames will be able to find a decent BPA in that position. 
A player that I could see falling to 26 is  Alex Newhook who is ranked as high as 9 by elite prospects but as low as 20 by TSN/McKenzie. 
 
Newhook simply dominated in the BCHL and is committed to Boston University next year. 
 
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http://www.mynhldraft.com/2019-nhl-d...s/Alex-Newhook
I think that the league he performed in, and the college factor, will contribute to a small slide.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 05:15 PM
			
			
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				I'm worried about this I'd take him but not in the first round at least. 
 
Foot speed is sub par 
Hockey IQ is on the low end 
"C" rated prospect 
Passed over in 2 drafts already 
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His foot speed isn't that slow.  Still think he'd be a good choice.
 https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/04...outing-report/
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			04-30-2019, 05:42 PM
			
			
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				He's like a slightly better Hunter Smith at this point. 
			
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Leason had 89 points in 55 games this season alone as a 19 year old. 
 
Smith had 91 points in 166 games during his entire Junior career and showed little improvement from his 18 to 19 year old seasons.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 05:52 PM
			
			
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				He's like a slightly better Hunter Smith at this point. 
			
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A more drafty Joe Colborne.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 06:04 PM
			
			
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			I mean there's more than just Leason out there. 
 
RW Simon Homlstrom 
C/RW Phil Tomasino 
G Spencer Knight 
RW/C/LW Yegor Afanaseyev (Personal Favorite) 
C Adam Beckman 
RW Pavel Dorofeyev 
LW Nolan Foote 
 
I do really like a ton of players from ranked 15 to 50. I somehow wish we could land Arthir Kaliyev or Philip Broberg. But they'll be long gone by the Flames pick. Dream Scenario, Podkolzon falls all the way down to the Flames spot and we skip him for a D man..../sarcasm.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 07:15 PM
			
			
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				I mean there's more than just Leason out there. 
 
RW Simon Homlstrom 
C/RW Phil Tomasino 
G Spencer Knight 
RW/C/LW Yegor Afanaseyev (Personal Favorite) 
C Adam Beckman 
RW Pavel Dorofeyev 
LW Nolan Foote 
 
I do really like a ton of players from ranked 15 to 50. I somehow wish we could land Arthir Kaliyev or Philip Broberg. But they'll be long gone by the Flames pick. Dream Scenario, Podkolzon falls all the way down to the Flames spot and we skip him for a D man..../sarcasm. 
			
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I don't study prospects but one thing I know is that Treliving likes multi position guys, so two of those have an edge.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-30-2019, 07:19 PM
			
			
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				I mean there's more than just Leason out there. 
 
RW Simon Homlstrom 
C/RW Phil Tomasino 
G Spencer Knight 
RW/C/LW Yegor Afanaseyev (Personal Favorite) 
C Adam Beckman 
RW Pavel Dorofeyev 
LW Nolan Foote 
 
I do really like a ton of players from ranked 15 to 50. I somehow wish we could land Arthir Kaliyev or Philip Broberg. But they'll be long gone by the Flames pick. Dream Scenario, Podkolzon falls all the way down to the Flames spot and we skip him for a D man..../sarcasm. 
			
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Say ye've been afana Afanaseyev?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Doing some reading up on potential picks at 26. I think that because this draft is so deep at centre, the Flames will be able to find a decent BPA in that position. 
A player that I could see falling to 26 is  Alex Newhook who is ranked as high as 9 by elite prospects but as low as 20 by TSN/McKenzie. 
 
Newhook simply dominated in the BCHL and is committed to Boston University next year. 
 http://www.mynhldraft.com/2019-nhl-d...s/Alex-Newhook
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This is my hope too that we can snag this kid. I can't see him falling him out of the top 15 though because his ceiling seems so high and he's already a good 200 ft player. Maybe we trade up with someone like Philly to select him. 
 
Based on wanting more speed my top 3 hopes would be: 
1. Alex Newhook (most likely need to trade up) 
2. Philip Tomasino 
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				This is my hope too that we can snag this kid. I can't see him falling him out of the top 15 though because his ceiling seems so high and he's already a good 200 ft player. Maybe we trade up with someone like Philly to select him.  
 
Based on wanting more speed my top 3 hopes would be: 
1. Alex Newhook (most likely need to trade up) 
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Philip Tomasino checks a lot of boxes. 
 
Shoots right 
Decent size 
Good skater 
Good shot
 
Big draw back is that he is a liability in his own zone, but I think that is something that the Flames can live with. Not every draft pick should kill penalties.  
 
I think that He will likely be on the board at 26 as well. 
 
Ranked #30 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM 
Ranked #27 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS 
Ranked #19 by ISS HOCKEY 
Ranked #24 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY 
Ranked #14 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters) 
Ranked #31 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM 
Ranked #34 by TSN/McKenzie
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			Another good player I'd like to see in Flames silks is Raphaël Lavoie. 
 
Issue is that he is ranked 12 by ISS and likely wont fall to 26. 
 
It's hard to look past the fact that he is 6'4" and shoots right. Not to mention his back to back 30+ goal season in the Q looks good on him.  
 
Big draw back on him, as you might assume is that he is reported as being a poor skater. Also, there is always the fear that he gets his way by having a mans body in a boys league. This of course does not always translate to the NHL.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2019, 04:26 PM
			
			
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				Philip Tomasino checks a lot of boxes.  
Shoots right 
Decent size 
Good skater 
Good shot
 
Big draw back is that he is a liability in his own zone, but I think that is something that the Flames can live with. Not every draft pick should kill penalties.  
 
I think that He will likely be on the board at 26 as well. 
 
Ranked #30 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM 
Ranked #27 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS 
Ranked #19 by ISS HOCKEY 
Ranked #24 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY 
Ranked #14 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters) 
Ranked #31 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM 
Ranked #34 by TSN/McKenzie
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Players can always learn the defensive side of the game if they are willing to work at it. He may never win the Selke but so what. Offense you can't really teach so if its Tomasino or someone like him I would be happy with that at 26.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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