Alberta Election Thread - Election Day April 16 2019

[zamler]

The NDP and AP votes should be flipped what is wrong with people.

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Irrelevant now, but why is it Alberta is pretty well a two party system? I’m kind of surprised the AP and Liberals have NO seats...are we that clearly divided?

Strategic voting. Most don't care about the candidate in their riding.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Irrelevant now, but why is it Alberta is pretty well a two party system? I’m kind of surprised the AP and Liberals have NO seats...are we that clearly divided?

I think people vote against things and vote strategically too much. I certainly have been guilty of this in the past. Voting against your fears rather than voting for what you want leads to the two parties dominating.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by nik-

Well this thread has reached peak toxic ####hole as expected

As fun as they may be to write, comments like this don't exactly help.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Hahaha holy ####, I'm watching CTV, and the Liberals' campaign manager just admitted he's only paying attention to Mountain View and has really just tried to win that one riding.

If there was any doubt that the Alberta Liberals are a sham and that it's just a platform for David Khan at this point, you can remove said doubt.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Liberals in Alberta are never going to be relevant. I hoped the AP would fare better for sure so we have more legit options next election.

Is this because of the name?

[Nsd1]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Irrelevant now, but why is it Alberta is pretty well a two party system? I’m kind of surprised the AP and Liberals have NO seats...are we that clearly divided?

I think many people looking to vote AP or Liberal may have been afraid of splitting the vote so they went to their next best party.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

If India, a country of 1.3 billion can do it electronically, I don’t see why we can’t. I’m not suggesting we put it online as that is a whole can of worms but there has to be a better way.

Yeah no fraud ever comes outta there

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Irrelevant now, but why is it Alberta is pretty well a two party system? I’m kind of surprised the AP and Liberals have NO seats...are we that clearly divided?

It has really interested me to see across the internet how anyone who discussed voting for someone other than the NDP or UCP got trashed for throwing away their vote and/or contributing to splitting the vote.

It's sadly just a consequence of the way our system works. People don't vote for who they believe in the most, they just vote for whoever has the best chance of defeating the person they dislike the most

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Dogbert

When was the last Alberta election where the Conservative party or parties got less than half of the vote? Even in 2015, the Wildrose and PC parties totaled 52% combined, and it’s not like they were going to lose many of those votes as an amalgamated party.

Well it clearly indicates the UCP is gathering loads of votes from the progressive side of the spectrum, not just the right. The entire fear and smear campaign was a total disaster.

If they are able to effectively govern from the center, this could be the beginning of another decades long political dynasty.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

As fun as they may be to write, comments like this don't exactly help.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Shannon Phillips losing would be icing on the cake.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah no fraud ever comes outta there

lol was thinking the same thing.

[CaptainCrunch]

Well I think this tracked pretty much to some of the polls, though the 50+% of the popular vote is pretty surprising.


I believe that a big part of this is obviously economic, people are tired of feeling like a whipping boy to the rest of the country, and didn't buy into the NDP campaign platform that didn't seem to resonate.



At the same time, the NDP campaign I thought was poorly run, I think that the negative Kenney is evil and mean campaign just didn't resonate with people, and its not the first time, we've found that in terms of campaigns that are focused on individual bashing fails more often or not. Wynne in Ontario focused on attacking Doug Ford and lost, Hillary focused on bashing Trump and alienated the voting base. Harper same thing with Trudeau.



I also think that sadly the Alberta Party really failed in their campaign, they just didn't get any kind of beach head, I also thought that their communications strategy was really lacking.


This is pretty much a white wash result, The NDP really didn't gain anything and lost quite a bit moreso cabinet members then seats.



One of my former players that I coached ran in this election and won her seat and I'm absolutely thrilled for her. Congratulations Whitney, not bad for a defensive halfback.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Well it clearly indicates the UCP is gathering loads of votes from the progressive side of the spectrum, not just the right. The entire fear and smear campaign was a total disaster.

If they are able to effectively govern from the center, this could be the beginning of another decades long political dynasty.

I appreciate your optimism, but let’s pump the brakes on prognosticating the next few decades before day 1.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Is this because of the name?

For the Liberals I believe so. Not sure about the AP. I knew that lots of Albertans would be voting UCP but I think credit has to be paid to Notley and the NDP as their campaign was effective at generating support from people that may have been on the fence as well as votes based out of fear and their effectiveness was probably at the cost of the AP.

[the_only_turek_fan]

“Battleground Calgary” went mostly blue.

[calf]

Derek Fildebrandt in 4th in his riding

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[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Seems perfect to me. I wouldn't want computers with so much potential to go wrong there, not to mention they will be obsolete and need replacing before the next election. Pen and paper is cheap, easy and reliable. What system do you think would be better?

Exactly. Besides, haven't there been a ton of concerns about vulnerabilities in American polling machines? I don't think pen and paper is obsolete at all -- it's far more difficult to manipulate.

Originally Posted by nik-

https://twitter.com/user/status/236493428307935232

[Nsd1]

I wanted to vote AP but their candidate in my riding was terrible. Ran as a liberal last election and lost, performed terribly in a candidate forum, and didn't really know much about his own party's platform.