[PGT] Still allergic to scoring. Flames lose 2-1

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The crease has been an on ice decoration wince 1999.

The NHL doesn't write down the rules because then they would have to enforce them

A guy who was the president of a team as recently as a year ago doesn't know what the rules if the game are.

And the other three on the panel? Are you saying it was a good goal?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by KipperFaNaTic

Did not lose this game because of the refs. Scoring chances heavily favored the knights. I personally don’t remember many high danger scoring chances from the flames.

naturalstattrick.com, which has become the capfriendly of advanced stats, say that the game was pretty even with Calgary having 21 scoring chances and VGK with 19

in high danger chances, it was 7 to 6 in calgary's favour

Calgary's shooting percentage is down from before the ASG, and while that is concerning, the hope is your gravitate back to the mean, which Calgary is currently below.

[Joborule]

Flames have gone 7 games straight with scoring 2 goals or less.

That's a problem.

Flames have been doing well enough for most part in keeping puck out of net. But they're doing a terrible job at getting the puck into the opposition net.

Even with the goals called back of late, the Flames gotta be aiming for 3 to 4 goals a game, rather than only being able to pot 2 at most, including the ones that are called back.

The scoring lines and the PP isn't getting the job done. And Neal's absence may be starting to take notice since the lineup doesn't have enough scoring potential spread out.

[flames_fan_down_under]

That disallowed goal was hard for me to understand. I understand the contact but Tkachuk is outside the paint and what was Tkachuk supposed to do differently? Is he supposed to quickly check where MAF has the head of his stick while he fights for position in front of the net? To me that’s on MAF and it’s incidental contact resulting from a hockey play that happens 100 times in a game. Embarrassing indeed Matthew. .

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by AC

Here's the goalie interference call, and what I think is the most damning part of it.



Tkachuk is outside the crease when Fleury reaches the knob of his stick out and in between Tkachuk and Schmidt. He wedges the stick in then sells it hard.







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If a goalie initiates the contact outside of the crease and the forward gets called for interference, why even have a painted crease? It serves no purpose. Might as well just have a zero tolerance rule against goalie contact. The league says it wants to increase scoring and then shoots itself in the foot almost nightly with these kind of overturned calls.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Joborule

The scoring lines and the PP isn't getting the job done. And Neal's absence may be starting to take notice since the lineup doesn't have enough scoring potential spread out.

I think James Neal helped keep that group loose, and he isn't even around the team anymore. Pressure may be mounting a little for them.

[Tsawwassen]

Heads up, even though the Flames lost, the game is being replayed on SN West nationally at 11:00 AM.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

naturalstattrick.com, which has become the capfriendly of advanced stats, say that the game was pretty even with Calgary having 21 scoring chances and VGK with 19

in high danger chances, it was 7 to 6 in calgary's favour

Calgary's shooting percentage is down from before the ASG, and while that is concerning, the hope is your gravitate back to the mean, which Calgary is currently below.

Vegas was much, much better without the puck however.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I think James Neal helped keep that group loose, and he isn't even around the team anymore. Pressure may be mounting a little for them.

that's an interesting thought...maybe?

issue is that Neal's injury doesn't seem to have an end date, so the Flames need to figure this out without him

[Huntingwhale]

I didn't get to watch the full game since I'm older and have to be in bed early. But saw the called-back goal. Brutal call. If it happened to the Knights I would still have it brutal. Burke on The Fan this morning saying literally everyone on the panel thought it was a good goal and they were all shocked when it was called back. Says he plans on calling the league to find out exactly what the reasoning was. Go get em' Burkie!

Not a fan of the top line drying up right now. I know it's unrealistic to expect them all to have maintained their epic point pace all season long. It's one thing to have your chances and not cash in. It's another to completely fall out of sync.

If Monahan is injured again, he needs to heal up and not try to play through it like he did last season. He said in an interview last season he tried to play through it and keep it from the team. Don't. Do. That. Again. He'll never be the play driver or Selke candidate some want him to be. But when his shot is off as much as it is lately, something is clearly wrong. He was on pace for 50+ goals, and now seems he won't break 35. 30+ goals is great in the NHL. But not so great when all the goals come during the first half and then very few down the stretch when it matters most.

Glad Rittich played well and I'd be fine with the team went back to him vs the Coyotes.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

that's an interesting thought...maybe?

issue is that Neal's injury doesn't seem to have an end date, so the Flames need to figure this out without him

If possible I'd like to see him at least in the room and around the team.

But connecting the dots suggests to me he may have left the city entirely.

Wills yesterday said that they've taken his stall away in the dressing room. He isn't skating or dressing, so fine. I guess. But that seems odd.

And during a Q&A on the Athletic site, Cruickshank mentioned that no one in the media has seen Neal at all lately.

Conspiracy theory stuff I suppose. But something doesn't seem right.

[Lil Pedro]

Did anyone else think that might have been Sam Bennett's worst game as a Flame?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If possible I'd like to see him at least in the room and around the team.

But connecting the dots suggests to me he may have left the city entirely.

Wills yesterday said that they've taken his stall away in the dressing room. He isn't skating or dressing, so fine. I guess. But that seems odd.

And during a Q&A on the Athletic site, Cruickshank mentioned that no one in the media has seen Neal at all lately.

Conspiracy theory stuff I suppose. But something doesn't seem right.

I heard he was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If possible I'd like to see him at least in the room and around the team.

But connecting the dots suggests to me he may have left the city entirely.

Wills yesterday said that they've taken his stall away in the dressing room. He isn't skating or dressing, so fine. I guess. But that seems odd.

And during a Q&A on the Athletic site, Cruickshank mentioned that no one in the media has seen Neal at all lately.

Conspiracy theory stuff I suppose. But something doesn't seem right.

That seems bizarre, did they shut Neal down for the year then? Did he pull a Jagr?

[bax]

Playoff style game. At the end of the day that one really could have went either way. A few thoughts:

- Don't like how the officials make soft calls in the first period and then put their whistles away in the third. Needs to be some consistency there.

- Disagree with the disallowed goal. To me it looks like Tkachuk is outside the crease and avoids contact until Fleury gets his own stick stuck in Tkachuk's jersey. Even then he swings his lower body out to make a desperation save and thus puts himself out of position. Terrible call.

- Bennett with one of his worst games of the year. Trying to do too much.

- Really wish that Zucker for Frolik swap would have gone through. The extra speed and offense would really be a help right now.

All in all need to stay positive. Flames didn't play poorly by any means. Loved Rittich's game and good to see Tkachuk be so engaged again. Come out and stomp the Coyotes tonight and maybe Montreal does us a favor and things are looking good.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

Did anyone else think that might have been Sam Bennett's worst game as a Flame?

I also noticed that he was terrible last night. Brutal turnovers, not noticeably physical....

He's been better than that for a while though.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

That seems bizarre, did they shut Neal down for the year then? Did he pull a Jagr?

My best guess is he's probably done for the remainder of the regular season and is rehabbing somewhere. He went on the last road trip, didn't go on this one. We'll see if he's around or watching from the press box when they get home.

Usually an injured player sticks around. In this case they came back, he vanished and they took his stuff out of the locker.

I have to think he'll be back for the playoffs. Its just weird though.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

Did anyone else think that might have been Sam Bennett's worst game as a Flame?

He was invincible

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

I didn't even notice Sam Bennett on the ice, in a greasy game like last night he should have been all over the place causing havoc like Tkachuk. Sean Monahan has been absolutely terrible lately also, Peters needs to send a message to a couple guys. Playoffs are going to be embarrassing if this effort keeps up.

[Shummy]

The NHL has bungled this rule up for so long that nobody knows what this penalty is. The on ice officials dont know and the guys in the booth dont know. Its actually turned into a pretty big joke. It will be even worse in the playoffs. For the past 5 or so years now the NHL has a serious officiating issue. The officials have taken it upon themselves to have their hands on the outcome of the games. It never used to be this way. One period they call every little infraction regardless how soft it is, the next period they put their whistles away. It just doesnt make sense. Its tough to watch some nights.


As far as the game goes, Ritter played great, Chucky was engaged which was nice to see. Monny has been a ghost for about a month now, Johnny has been a turnover machine. These two guys make way too much money to be playing like crap for this long. The tighter checking the game is the worse Johnny gets, it doesnt bode well for the playoffs. Both of these guys need to get their heads out of their rear ends. This is getting stupid