[PGT] Wild 4, Flames 2

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Well that was disappointing.


Couldn't understand the disallowed goal. Puck carrier is allowed contact..and the result of that contact was a loose puck deposited in the net. Doesn't make sense to me.


Hath's penalty? Beats me, too...maybe he "could" have been more careful, but he was in the moment of avoiding a check, too. Careless, maybe?


The first line was sloppy; the D was frequently sloppy. Lousy passes from both, too much time setting up the "pretty shot" (or whatever those guys are doing out there). The ONLY time they looked good -- when they reacted and didn't think. Johnny to Monny is exactly right and that is what they should always be doing. Bang, bang, bang, celly. Not all that hesitating and changing lanes, and moving around letting Dub get set. Not gonna beat a goalie like that in that fashion.


Smitty? Well, just not good. Dumb play back of the net (but no dumber than Raz' play that cost them a goal either.)

This is false. The player needs to avoid contact actually. Unless he makes a discernable attempt or the defense puches him that gets called back 9/10 times . Bennet made no effort to stop.

[bettercallbettman]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

How old are you ? 50? 60?

I don't like it either but Its super common for anyone that age to still rock an uncurved hat. He has an 1983 birthdate its not like he's that old. Hockey years he is ancient but regular human years he is still really young.

No doubt. It’s pretty pathetic when people start trashing someone’s appearance.

[dammage79]

Tough loss. Smitty broke down for two bad goals. Can't win em all.

I'm more frustrated with line #1 and their 5 on 5 play. Johnny's just over handling everything and not keeping it simple. Lindholm tonight was the first time I thought he looked a bit lost. Don't get me wrong, the top line on the PP is just fine. They're doing they're thing and it was nice to see Monny crack 30 goals again.

I don't know, it was a big night and I thought the Flames played good enough to win. Bennett robbed of a goal and an assist.

Dubnyk was great but there were a few moment we could have had them buried. Not gonna be too upset. 7-1 in their last 8 is just fine. They'll get back at it and lock it down.

EDIT: Hathaway..... that was awful.

[Jetfire]

Back home now. Disappointment of a loss aside I had a great time at the game with my father. The tributes to Iggy were excellent and the Flames organization did the whole event pretty much perfectly, so huge respect for them there. Despite the score and some bad goals the team did put in a good effort for the most part so I wasn’t upset there, but to top off a great day we ran into Lanny randomly after the game and he was gracious enough to let me get a quick picture with him, I was totally freaking out inside and it was a damn awesome moment.

[Barnet Flame]

Because of the occasion this is the most disappointing loss of the season. Made even worse because it was such an unnecessary loss largely because of a ridiculous brain fart.

[Yoho]

Now just imagine the feeling that everyone in the building and watching at home will have if Smith starts game 1 in the playoffs.

Where every shot on net you nervously reposition in your seat and the wringing your hands.

The narrative of a strong veteran leader to guide us into the playoffs in net is just too attractive for the coaches to resist and deliniate from.

Imagine the confidence the other Flames players have in front of him knowing literally a shot from anywhere can beat Smith.

Tonight it cost us Iggy’s retirement game, in April it will cost much more.

[wired]

Almost every time the Flames have a pre-game celebration, they do not have a good showing.
They lost he game, reset and move on.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Now just imagine the feeling that everyone in the building and watching at home will have if Smith starts game 1 in the playoffs.

I imagine a lot of those people will be at the Dome for game 1 of the playoffs.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

How old are you ? 50? 60?

I don't like it either but Its super common for anyone that age to still rock an uncurved hat. He has an 1983 birthdate its not like he's that old. Hockey years he is ancient but regular human years he is still really young.

No he isn't. Half his life has been lived. He's old.

[UKflames]

Reading some of these comments you would think that Smith had gone and taken a huge dump in Iggy's lap. I appreciate it was his retirement night but some of you are taking this loss way out of context. Ask yourselves would you be this pi$$ed if Rittich had been in goal and we lost??
Sometime when Smith goes behind the net we get burned but the majority of the time it works out well. Do you not think M Turco, who was considered the best puck handling goalie, didn't have these occasions? To me it looks like Smith gets tied up with Hanifin, which stops him getting back to the net. It happens, it's one game. calm down and enjoy the previous 7 wins.

[oldschoolcalgary]

BB's comment about minnesota targeting smith's penchant to play the puck is interesting...

Smith is well known for doing this, so it makes you wonder whether they did anything specific? The NHL isn't quite the copycat league the NFL is, however, if specific strategies were deployed versus smith, i wonder how repeatable they are by other teams...

[Captaincanada80]

Haven’t had the time to read through all the pages. Is anyone else really disappointed that the Zucker trade didn’t work out, my goodness he looked phenomenal last night.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by UKflames

Reading some of these comments you would think that Smith had gone and taken a huge dump in Iggy's lap. I appreciate it was his retirement night but some of you are taking this loss way out of context. Ask yourselves would you be this pi$$ed if Rittich had been in goal and we lost??
Sometime when Smith goes behind the net we get burned but the majority of the time it works out well. Do you not think M Turco, who was considered the best puck handling goalie, didn't have these occasions? To me it looks like Smith gets tied up with Hanifin, which stops him getting back to the net. It happens, it's one game. calm down and enjoy the previous 7 wins.

The rage isnt about smith this game, this game just illustrates why Mike smith shouldnt be starting for an nhl team any longer.

Mike smith has been good lately= 5 games below .900 save % I his last 10. David rittich has been bad lately= only 4 games below .900 in his last 10.

Explain that ridiculous disparity and the completely baffling penchant of management and coaching to favor a washed up ###### in net and you will find the source of the vitriol in this thread. Mike smith= no good, and its high time we stopped seeing him in red.

[868904]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

I was reminded a bit of that last Nucks loss. The Flames more than deserved to win but ran into a hot goalie, got no breaks, and had pretty much every bad play go in their net. Like the Nucks the Wild don’t scare me at all as a 1st round matchup. Yes they can fluke out one win but good luck winning a series getting dominated like that.

In a playoff series, goaltending is the great neutralizer. I don’t want the Flames to face any goalie that is capable of stealing a series. Not sure who that leaves as an ideal first round opponent though.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by 868904

In a playoff series, goaltending is the great neutralizer. I don’t want the Flames to face any goalie that is capable of stealing a series. Not sure who that leaves as an ideal first round opponent though.

I don't think there are any easy outs in the playoffs
Dallas scares me because they seem to give the Flames fits
Chicago scares me because of their experience and the fact that Kane is playing out of his mind
Edmonton scares me because of McDavid
Minny scares me because of Dubnyk
Colorado scares me because of their top line

My preference has always been Minny but with Phoenix now a possibility I would probably take them.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

The rage isnt about smith this game, this game just illustrates why Mike smith shouldnt be starting for an nhl team any longer.

Mike smith has been good lately= 5 games below .900 save % I his last 10. David rittich has been bad lately= only 4 games below .900 in his last 10.

Explain that ridiculous disparity and the completely baffling penchant of management and coaching to favor a washed up ###### in net and you will find the source of the vitriol in this thread. Mike smith= no good, and its high time we stopped seeing him in red.

Since January 1st.

Rittich has started 13 games. He is 9-1-2, .900 sv%, 2.84 GAA.

Smith has started 12 games. He is 8-4-1, .904 save%, 2.81 GAA.

So if Mike Smith shouldn't be starting for an NHL team, what does that mean for David Rittich?

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

BB's comment about minnesota targeting smith's penchant to play the puck is interesting...

Smith is well known for doing this, so it makes you wonder whether they did anything specific? The NHL isn't quite the copycat league the NFL is, however, if specific strategies were deployed versus smith, i wonder how repeatable they are by other teams...

Seemed like they were rushing him when he was behind the net. They probably had guys in position for a scoring chance if they got to the puck. You could say Smith fell into their game plan when he stayed behind the net too long.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't think there are any easy outs in the playoffs
Dallas scares me because they seem to give the Flames fits
Chicago scares me because of their experience and the fact that Kane is playing out of his mind
Edmonton scares me because of McDavid
Minny scares me because of Dubnyk
Colorado scares me because of their top line

My preference has always been Minny but with Phoenix now a possibility I would probably take them.

Yeah even Arizona, the weakest team scares me because of Smith, will he try to hard to show up his old team?

I thought it was interesting that Tre put pressure on the team to win last night, almost like he was testing them to see how they would respond. I think the majority of the team responded well. Smith and Brodie not so much.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Since January 1st.

Rittich has started 13 games. He is 9-1-2, .900 sv%, 2.84 GAA.

Smith has started 12 games. He is 8-4-1, .904 save%, 2.81 GAA.

So if Mike Smith shouldn't be starting for an NHL team, what does that mean for David Rittich?

It means we should get rid of David Rittich and sign Smith to a lifetime contract.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't think there are any easy outs in the playoffs
Dallas scares me because they seem to give the Flames fits
Chicago scares me because of their experience and the fact that Kane is playing out of his mind
Edmonton scares me because of McDavid
Minny scares me because of Dubnyk
Colorado scares me because of their top line

My preference has always been Minny but with Phoenix now a possibility I would probably take them.

Those teams are done...cooked. So are the Canucks.

No one at this time of year is climbing and passing 4 teams.

All teams have guys that can hurt you, it's the NHL. Obviously some more than others.

I just want the team healthy and playing well heading into the playoffs. That happens and I really like their chances at going on a bit of a run, regardless of the 1st opponent as Calgary has been the superior team to all of them, all year long.