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Old 02-25-2019, 12:49 PM   #161
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Paul Ladue? Oscar Fantenberg?

...Dion Phaneuf????
Look at Scorp being the first person to name drop Fantenberg. Well done, young man.
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:50 PM   #162
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Until 2 of them get injured
Well, there's also Valiev, Hogstrom and Nielsen who can fill in. Fantenberg's probably an upgrade on them, but let's face it: if 2 of Gio, Kylington, Valimaki and Hanifin get hurt, this team's probably not going very far anyway.

I don't really get this move unless the intention is to play Fantenberg a lot. It doesn't cripple the organization, though, so whatever.
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:52 PM   #163
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Even Haynes just pointed out the injuries to Toni Lydman, Rhett Warrner and Denis Gauthier in '04 resulting in a nobody (Evans) having to play 2 games in the 2nd round

This is way better than having to play someone like Nielsen
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:18 PM   #164
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That's my next jersey sorted.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:27 PM   #165
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Another write up. from a year ago

http://mayorsmanor.com/2018/02/la-ki...ings-number-8/

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All of that said, his ultimate future with the Kings is still being written. Understand, it is a huge step to come over from Europe and try to play on the biggest stage of them all. There are smaller rinks in North America, different systems to learn, the style of play is different, etc. He had a good camp, then excelled in the beginning of the NHL season; when things weren’t as tight, not as checking, not as hard. As the season moved along and the games became more normal, it was clear to management he was struggling. It was time for him to get some more seasoning in the AHL. They wanted him to get more minutes in Ontario and to have a chance to be a dominate player at that level.

One of the best things about Fantenberg is his willingness to earn his spot. Unlike most undrafted/college free agents these days, he wasn’t looking for a team that would guarantee him playing time. Quite the opposite, actually, as he made it clear to all of management that he wanted to earn his spot. He didn’t want anything handed to him. It was known from Day 1 that he would likely be spending some time in the AHL… and he was perfectly OK with it. There are some players who might say that, but not really mean it deep down. This guy is a rare breed. He meant every word of it. He wasn’t just about giving sound bites, he is sincere.
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On the ice, he isn’t the biggest of defenders. Standing 6-foot tall, he is thick though, unlike a normal 18-year-old recently drafted player would be. Fantenberg is also an offensive guy – a good puck mover — and that’s where he will eventually contribute more. There are other areas of his game he still needs to work on, and that’s where coach Mike Stothers and the team in Ontario will help round out his potential.

Prior to being signed, scouting reports came in on him all over the board. Some saw him as a speedy puck mover, some as a stay-at-home type of defender. He’s never been a big producer on the score sheet and likely won’t develop that part of his game at this point. He was usually a plus-player (for what it’s worth) in Sweden, but never extraordinarily high. He’s also older than the organization’s top defensive prospects; yet he’s also in his fifth year of professional hockey, having played in Sweden’s top league before moving on to the KHL last year.

In summary, Fantenberg’s chance to gain a regular spot in LA is a real one. Although, as always, it is ultimately up to him to seize it. He would do well to accentuate one other piece of his game – albeit his shot, or passing ability, something has to push him into at least the Kevin Gravel or Jake Muzzin range for him to have a shot at a long-term home in SoCal. At the current trajectory, he factors into the team’s 2018-19 roster plans, if not sooner.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:38 PM   #166
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Kings GM Rob Blake says team talked about an extension with Fantenberg but couldn't get it done.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:39 PM   #167
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“Oscar fits the need. ... We were in a position that with our young defence, we wanted to support them, not replace them.” - #Flames GM Brad Treliving.

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Treliving - “The ponds we were swimming in, the asks didn’t move. You have to show restraint this time of the year. We talked week’s earlier about what we were not going to do. We stuck to a plan. Not frustrated at all.”
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Can play either side according to Treliving.
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Treliving - “The ponds we were swimming in, the asks didn’t move.
Francis' piece tomorrow: "Flames GM Treliving went swimming instead of making trades on deadline day"
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:41 PM   #170
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Am I alone in thinking this is really steep?
I hope the Flames give up the third, which means this team is winning two playoff series!

Also, our fourth-round picks have been money lately.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:41 PM   #171
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Francis' piece tomorrow: "Flames GM Treliving went swimming instead of making trades on deadline day"
At least we weren't swimming in Edmonton's water
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I hope the Flames give up the third, which means this team is winning two playoff series!

Also, our fourth-round picks have been money lately.
I hope the Flames give up a 4th because we won more than two playoff series but our defencemen were healthy!
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Am I alone in thinking this is really steep?
A little, but that 4th will resemble a 5th based on the drafting order, same goes for the possibility of it being a 3rd.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:47 PM   #174
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How much restraint is too much restraint?

A lot of the rental prices weren't very high. Zucarello, Stone, Dzingel, Johansson, and Granlund all went for less that most expected.

Treliving seems to be acting like the prices were crazy, but they're really weren't.

Again, I didn't even want the Flames to get most of these players anyways. But Treliving's rationale seems to be a bit inconsistent with reality.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:57 PM   #175
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Am I alone in thinking this is really steep?
A 4th is really steep?

There is very little chance it becomes a 3rd because he would have to play half the games, for 3 rounds, for that to happen.

And if the Flames do make the conference finals, and he has played at least half the games, then a 3rd will have been a steal!
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:58 PM   #176
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Can we stop building this guy up... He probably isn't going to play and he won't be resigned.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:59 PM   #177
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Who had Fantenberg in the pool?
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:59 PM   #178
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Am I alone in thinking this is really steep?
A player for magic beans usually is not steep.
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Old 02-25-2019, 02:00 PM   #179
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Can we stop building this guy up... He probably isn't going to play and he won't be resigned.
wow you're really jumping the shark today, bud
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Brodie is so traded in the off season
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