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Old 02-25-2019, 11:42 AM   #12741
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Really hate Bieksa but I think he’s right.

Maybe it’s not solved on deadline day, but not wrong.
How have our games against VGK gone this year? Blew them out in one and lost a close game in the rematch. Not scared of them at all.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:44 AM   #12742
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the thing about "truculence" and "playing physical" is that though it might not be seen as much during the regular season, when you get into 7 game series and see the saame ugly faces and cheapness from these same guys night after night...physicality most certainly becomes a MAJOR part of the game.

I say it certainly wont hurt anything to add some size and muscle to this club, because we are demonstrably smaller and more finesse than a majority of clubs.
Ultimately it's about versatility. I don't suggest the Flames will be imposing their physicality on teams as our chief strategy in winning a series.

It's about adding different looks for if/when a playoff series does go that way.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:44 AM   #12743
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Its weird that I agree with Doug Maclean. Bit of a hole on the 2nd line.

I don't think they're wrong about size. The worry about getting past Vegas and San Jose sounds like a hot take.

It makes me wonder if the team internally wants Smith to regain #1 form. His ability to break up a forcheck in the playoffs to protect the Dmen from getting pounded could be a major consideration.
Someone showed the stats. Think it was an athletic article that basically puts some doubt around how impactful smith “protecting the dmen “ truly is.

At the base of it the flames are essentially playing with house money compared to where they thought they’d be at beginning of the season. I don’t think they expected to be competing for the div/ conference title this year and so never planned on figuring out goaltending until after this season.

Flames are in this position largely inspite of smith but they are handcuffed.

I believe that gives them pause to do anything big this year.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:45 AM   #12744
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:46 AM   #12745
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TSN clearly are not Flames fans or believers.

Apparently the west is so bad that it's "easy" to build a cushion on teams like SJ and WIN. I didn't realize there were so many skeptics still after the season we've had. Screw em.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:49 AM   #12746
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I say it certainly wont hurt anything to add some size and muscle to this club, because we are demonstrably smaller and more finesse than a majority of clubs.
This is fine if all else is equal, but it rarely is. It will hurt if you're taking skill, speed, two-way play out of the lineup for size and muscle.

In the past few years we've seen guys like Bouma, Stewart, Brouwer, Neal completely bomb on this team. That's why guys like Ryan and Czarnik and Mangiapane are in our lineup.

The bigger, physical guys who've had any success for us - Bennett, Tkachuk, Ferland are all skilled play-driver types, and in at least two of those three's case, excellent skaters.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:50 AM   #12747
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:51 AM   #12748
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I understand what you are saying but what are some examples of this team last year having trouble against physical teams? they have beaten the majority of top teams in the league
This season, games against San Jose and Vegas, most notably. It's stood out to me when watching that it's a dynamic we're simply unable to match.

The 2-0 loss in Vegas, I felt the Flames generated the least chances they had all year, and weren't able to push through the physicality. Plenty of long shifts pinning us in our own end by the 3rd/4th lines.

Boston has also given the Flames trouble and play a similar style.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:52 AM   #12750
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TSN clearly are not Flames fans or believers.

Apparently the west is so bad that it's "easy" to build a cushion on teams like SJ and WIN. I didn't realize there were so many skeptics still after the season we've had. Screw em.
Yea, and this after their circle jerk about how WIN and SJ are better suited for long playoff runs because they are the better team... all 3 of those clowns are a joke honestly, all part of the problem with eastern bias for awards.
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They'll change their tune this afternoon when Stone makes his way over.

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Old 02-25-2019, 11:53 AM   #12752
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The 2-0 loss in Vegas, I felt the Flames generated the least chances they had all year, and weren't able to push through the physicality. Plenty of long shifts pinning us in our own end by the 3rd/4th lines.
Vegas was a team who we absolutely embarrassed the last time we had played them.

Flames took them lightly, and Vegas took that game very seriously.

I don't think that was representative of the playoffs.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:55 AM   #12753
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This season, games against San Jose and Vegas, most notably. It's stood out to me when watching that it's a dynamic we're simply unable to match.

The 2-0 loss in Vegas, I felt the Flames generated the least chances they had all year, and weren't able to push through the physicality. Plenty of long shifts pinning us in our own end by the 3rd/4th lines.

Boston has also given the Flames trouble and play a similar style.
What about when the Flames beat Vegas 7-2? Did they have enough grit that night?
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The 2-0 game was all on MAF's performance.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:56 AM   #12755
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Yea, and this after their circle jerk about how WIN and SJ are better suited for long playoff runs because they are the better team... all 3 of those clowns are a joke honestly, all part of the problem with eastern bias for awards.
To flip it to an outsider's perspective - would you be talking about how NYI are one of the favourites in the East? Or would you be overlooking them and pointing to teams like PIT or WAS?

It's all fair - we just have to earn our respect in the playoffs this year. If we do, just like the Jets this year, we'll be noticed and mentioned as a top team next year.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:58 AM   #12756
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The Flames are different then most teams. Their game is based on a group of skilled D carrying or moving the puck. And to an extent a goalie to start the process.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:59 AM   #12757
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Did Kypreos just say Stone has a destination - thinking VGK
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Flames closest comparable in the last 10 years is CHI.

They were skilled, had a couple of heavy players and a bunch of rats.
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:01 PM   #12760
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