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				I think this is negotiation tactics by the Flames trying to get Ottawa's price down. With Winnipeg out of the equation i think Ottawa will lower the price and Calgary will come up a bit to a compromise and Stone will be a Flame. 
			
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			02-25-2019, 10:14 AM
			
			
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			That Valimaki price could drop before the deadline and the pressure gets put on Dorion, then Flames could go back in.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			02-25-2019, 10:14 AM
			
			
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				I can see the logic in doing nothing. Winnipeg, San Jose, and Columbus went all in, and still probably don’t get past Tampa. Might be better to wait this year out and admit that the Lightning are too stacked. Come back next year when the playing field is a little more even. 
			
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That is just ridiculous. Should the season just be stopped now and Tampa can have the cup? What a weird losing mentality to have.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-25-2019, 10:14 AM
			
			
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				Glad that they would not trade Valamaki. 
 
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I'm not advocating a Valimaki trade, but the assertion that there are other fish in the sea like Mark Stone is significantly wrong.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-25-2019, 10:15 AM
			
			
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				I don't think this is a tactic.  We're walking away. 
			
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Which is a great tactic!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Happy to hear the Leslie update.  No issues with this, especially with the price being so high.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-25-2019, 10:15 AM
			
			
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				UPD: Ryan Leslie: Flames are "99% out on Stone"
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				McKenzie says the deal breaker for Calgary is that he was hearing the Sens were insisting that Valimaki had to be part of the package. 
			
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Thank god Treliving has a backbone,
 
Also Valimaki> any prospect on nashville or Vegas
 
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			02-25-2019, 10:16 AM
			
			
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			if vegas, nashville, or nyi are paying up a valimaki caliber piece, then you laugh and let your young, second place team keep doing their thing
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-25-2019, 10:16 AM
			
			
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			When Ottawa comes crawling back tell them they can have Valimaki if they throw in Tkachuk.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king? 
			
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			02-25-2019, 10:18 AM
			
			
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				Which is a great tactic! 
			
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			02-25-2019, 10:19 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Hockeyguy15
					 
				 
				When Ottawa comes crawling back tell them they can have Valimaki if they throw in Tkachuk. 
			
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Bennett, Frolik, Valimaki, 1st, 1st
 
Stone, Tkachuk
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-25-2019, 10:19 AM
			
			
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				I'm not advocating a Valimaki trade, but the assertion that there are other fish in the sea like Mark Stone is significantly wrong. 
			
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Fair enough.
 
But people have been talking like he's the greatest RW to ever play the game. The hype has been staggeringly ridiculous...and all because of an arbitrary date in Feb.
 
He is a great player, no question but he isn't Wayne Gretzky circa 1982.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Bennett, Frolik, Valimaki, 1st, 1st 
 
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Only if they take Neal too.
   
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				Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king? 
			
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			Honestly.... Stone is a rental.  
 
The ask was was beyond reality.  Valimaki has more value than Stone by himself, with no sweetener. Happy Tre walked away.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-25-2019, 10:20 AM
			
			
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			Totally fine with not overpaying for Stone, signed or not. Would have been happy to add one of the 2nd tier pieces (Hayes Zuccarello Nyqvist) but I believe in what we have. Hopefully Neal sees his spot in danger with Czarnik showing well and it lights a fire under his ass for the playoffs.  
 
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			02-25-2019, 10:20 AM
			
			
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				Fair enough. 
 
But people have been talking like he's the greatest RW to ever play the game. The hype has been staggeringly ridiculous...and all because of an arbitrary date in Feb. 
 
He is a great player, no question but he isn't Wayne Gretzky circa 1982. 
			
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He's probably as good as any player that's ever been available at the deadline.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				That is just ridiculous. Should the season just be stopped now and Tampa can have the cup? What a weird losing mentality to have. 
			
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It’s not ridiculous. What’s ridiculous is selling the farm for a rental in a year where one team is ‘heads and shoulders’ ahead of the rest.
 
If Columbus don’t win the cup then They’ve hamstrung themselves for the next few years...and THAT is ridiculous.
 
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			If Ottawa insisted we give up Valimaki for a rental, they have lost their damn mind.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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