[Rumour] McKenzie: dealbreaker for Flames is that Sens want Valimaki in Stone package

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think its an error to be out on stone- Vegas or Nashville will certainly pull the trigger and with Winnipeg locking down hayes (jealous of that price) it seems to me the flames might get passed by. Dont want to pull an oilers style "offseason 2018" where all your competitors make moves to get better and you just hold pat- we can all see how well that turned out for them.

We are second in the NHL. Not making a panic move is the right play.

[LWcrowfoot]

Walk away from Stone know, go after him July 1st. Treliving laid plenty of groundwork and Stone knows they're serious about him. Cost is just too high for a potential rental.

[Racki]

I wonder if it's coming down to a specific player? Perhaps the Sens insist it's Valimaki and the Flames won't budge and are offering Kylington? Maybe the Sens want Dube and the Flames refuse to include him?

[djsFlames]

Not disappointed. But ffs..........

SJ gets better.

Winnipeg gets better.

We do #### all. The "faith" in the current group must be ridiculously high.

[Jiggy_12]

No issue with this. Shows they won't panic and make a bad deal

[Gundo]

Hope Ottawa gets stuck not trading him and he walks on july 1st.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Fire It Up

In all fairness Maloney did say they won’t spend assists on a “rental.” If they can sign Stone or Dorion has a change of heart and let’s them talk extension, I think this also could change...

The ship has sailed on that.

No way they figure things out in less than 4 hours on something that significant.

[cofias]

Don't have a problem with standing pat in year 1 of our window.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Not disappointed. But ffs..........

SJ gets better.

Winnipeg gets better.

We do #### all. The "faith" in the current group must be ridiculously high.

Maybe it should be

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Not disappointed. But ffs..........

SJ gets better.

Winnipeg gets better.

We do #### all. The "faith" in the current group must be ridiculously high.

For a team that's in 2nd place overall and has played well for majority of the season. I'm glad Tre isn't trigger happy and pulling deals that could cripple the team in the future.

[Jore]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Not disappointed. But ffs..........

SJ gets better.

Winnipeg gets better.

We do #### all. The "faith" in the current group must be ridiculously high.

they're second in the league. they've earned it

[442scotty]

Flames could make some noise in the playoffs with or without Stone. This year is gonna be a good test in the playoffs but not one to burn assets on a rental. Flames need better goaltending if they want to win it all.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Not disappointed. But ffs..........

SJ gets better.

Winnipeg gets better.

We do #### all. The "faith" in the current group must be ridiculously high.

You sound disappointed.

You do realize there is a few more hours left...

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

We do #### all. The "faith" in the current group must be ridiculously high.

The deadline isn't over. Even if he doesn't get Stone Treliving still has time to make the team better.

[sureLoss]

McKenzie says the deal breaker for Calgary is that he was hearing the Sens were insisting that Valimaki had to be part of the package.

[Nelson]

The thing is, even though the Flames are 99% out on Stone right now, we also know they were very close to getting him and, therefore, very interested in him. It follows that if something changes, ex: Ottawa reneges on its demand of Valimaki (Bob McKenzie), they could again become very interested very quickly.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Not disappointed. But ffs..........



SJ gets better.



Winnipeg gets better.



We do #### all. The "faith" in the current group must be ridiculously high.

I can see the logic in doing nothing. Winnipeg, San Jose, and Columbus went all in, and still probably don’t get past Tampa. Might be better to wait this year out and admit that the Lightning are too stacked. Come back next year when the playing field is a little more even.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

McKenzie says the deal breaker for Calgary is that he was hearing the Sens were insisting that Valimaki had to be part of the package.

Yeah, no thanks.

[Brick]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

McKenzie says the deal breaker for Calgary is that he was hearing the Sens were insisting that Valimaki had to be part of the package.

Glad that they would not trade Valamaki.

There are other fish in the sea.

[flamesforcup]

I think this is negotiation tactics by the Flames trying to get Ottawa's price down. With Winnipeg out of the equation i think Ottawa will lower the price and Calgary will come up a bit to a compromise and Stone will be a Flame.