[Rumour] McKenzie: dealbreaker for Flames is that Sens want Valimaki in Stone package

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by iamca

Is it a fake tweet from Bob McKenzie?

Hearing 2019 1st, Frolik, Oliver Klyington, and a conditional 2020 2nd round pick for Stone.

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That’d be fantastic if true

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

That’d be fantastic if true

But it's not

[Reggie Dunlop]

Starting to get a bit rich for my taste. No mention of who the roster player might be?

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

When Valimaki is healthy do you play him over Kylington? I do. Bumps Kylington to 7th man and not playing anyway. He's not surpassing Gio or Hanifin anytime soon. I say use the asset as currency and get Stone.

3rd (Conditional to increase on Calgary Winning in playoffs, becomes first with 2 rounds won)
2nd (Conditional on Stone re-signing becomes first)
Kylington
Dube
Frolik (Cap & gives Ott a warm body under contract next season getting them to the floor)

This is close but there has to be a guaranteed 1st imo.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Which, I agree, if someone can switch and be a right side D, you might hang on to all 3-4 young guys.

Kylington has played some right side apparently. Though I'd think on the bottom pairing left-right means less than best players available.

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

That would be incorrect,

It's not, Andersson has more point.

unless you're docking Kylington for minutes

I am. We can prorate and minutes per until the cows come home but Rasmus has more points.

the organization hasn't allowed him to play.

That is a super weird way to say it

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

But it's not

I know. But it is Dorian after all

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

You wouldn't give up our third best defence prospect for a player who would immediately become the third best player on the entire roster?

The problem is it's not that simple.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Let's say the Flames trade Kylington now and then Brodie in the off-season to re-coup some picks. The Flames will still have.

1. Mark Giordano
2. Noah Hanifin
3. Travis Hamonic
4. Rasmus Andersson
5. Juusu Valimaki

That is still one of the better defensive groups in the league and all it needs is 2 solid veteran guys signed for cheap to play #6 and #7.

Prout & Stone?

[Love]

Wish we could have just got Zuccarello and be done with this nonsense

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Love

Wish we could have just got Zuccarello and be done with this nonsense

Zuccharello got hurt in his first game with the stars today. That's some bad luck right there.

[ThatsRobbery]

Originally Posted by Love

Wish we could have just got Zuccarello and be done with this nonsense

Im loving it so I dont mind this at all. All the speculation has been fun

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Prout & Stone?

Agreed. Prout seems to be a good 7th dman while I think a lot of people have forgotten that Stone is a very serviceable defensemen and can play big minutes if needed.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by ThatsRobbery

Im loving it so I dont mind this at all. All the speculation has been fun

Yeah, this sort of talk is what makes following sports fun. Never understood people who hate speculation -- what would you rather talk about? Ice thickness?

[topfiverecords]

Probably not, but has anyone mentioned losing Kylington in the Seattle expansion draft yet? How about trading Neal to Ottawa?

[tkflames]

If the following are the teams still realistically looking to add forwards:

Winnipeg
Calgary
San Jose
Vegas
Nashville

And these teams probably shouldn't, but likely will add:
Montreal, Vancouver, NYI, Buffalo, Boston

Then there are enough players available to either collapse the market completely tomorrow or turn this into an all out war of everyone ramping up.

I see the following players traded in the next 24 hours regardless of the Stone situation (and I dont think they will set off a chain reaction):
1. Hayes
2. Simmonds
3. Johansson

I see the following players traded only if Stone is also traded and the 4 remaining listed teams feel they need to respond:
1. Stone
2. Panarin
3. Staal
4. Kreider?
5. Nyquist
6. Any others??

Two thoughts:

1. Based on this, TSN will either be super bored, or it will be in both the acquiring team and Ottawa's best interest to wait until the last second to limit your competitors ability to respond.
2. I think Kelkalainen has completely gone all in knowing he doesn't have a job if Columbus does not go on a run, but he has completely jammed the market rather than getting low value for Panarin. My analogy would be that he was dealt a crappy hand with a giant stack and a wife nagging him to leave the Casino. Rather than cashing out he came to Vegas (or Ottawa in this case) to get rich..

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Love

Wish we could have just got Zuccarello and be done with this nonsense

I wish people would be excited about the best flames season in 25+ years and want to take advantage of that to make a big playoff run! All this debbie downer we wouldn't beat Tampa anyways garbage can take a hike any time.

[memphusk]

I will take Tampa in the finals anytime.

[Love]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I wish people would be excited about the best flames season in 25+ years and want to take advantage of that to make a big playoff run! All this debbie downer we wouldn't beat Tampa anyways garbage can take a hike any time.

Okay... And why did you quote me?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Yeah, this sort of talk is what makes following sports fun. Never understood people who hate speculation -- what would you rather talk about? Ice thickness?

Haha...okay this had me laughing quite a bit.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Agreed. Prout seems to be a good 7th dman while I think a lot of people have forgotten that Stone is a very serviceable defensemen and can play big minutes if needed.

Lol, like you?