2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

That's only technically true.

The best kind of true! Did I do that right?

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Hoop27

Brodie, Frolik, and a 1st for Stone get the conversation going with OTT?

I'd do it if Stone is guaranteed to re-sign with the Flames.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

the big issue is messing with chemistry prior to a playoff run with respect to brodie...

otherwise it seems fairly balanced imo

this is a big concern. Also the quality of minutes Brodie gives will be next to impossible to replace.

Originally Posted by Hoop27

Full disclosure I'm not a huge Brodie guy (I mean he's good but expendable imo)


My thinking is Brodie should have value to a team like OTT and I could envision Rasmus playing with Gio. If our Stone is potentially ready to come back in a few weeks or a month you could certainly pair him with Kylington on the 3rd pair and you still in theory have Valamaki and Prout as your 7/8 guys.


Don't post much but the recent slide has me a little worried. Just venting ideas

I mean, that's roster is a huge downgrade on the defensive side of the puck and the transition game suffers as well, but the line 2 defense and offense go way way up. Best top 6 in the league with a good not great defense. Can you win with that? I think so.

Originally Posted by TheKurgan

I think it would, but both Brodie and Frolik have limited NTC in their contracts. I find it hard to believe Ottawa will be a team they would waive for.

If we want Stone we are going to have to give to get. Probably a 1st, plus a couple of our top prospects (Dube/Kylington/Mangiapane), maybe even a roster player like Bennett/Jankow. Too much IMHO unless you think you have a real shot are resigning him.

After watching us play against TB/SJ in the last week I think our window for a cup run might still be a year or two out.

the ntcs are major flies in the ointment for this.

I think drolik accepts a deal anywhere. That he has reasonable assurances that he will play significant minutes in his contract year. Ottawa fits that bill.

Brodie, I'm not sure. I think he's from the Ottawa valley so maybe that smoothes things out but no one wants to be traded off a contending roster two months from the playoffs.

[Bleeding Red]

How about we take a hard left with OTT:

Stone (RD), 1st, top prospect (dube, manipagne) for Dzingel, Ceci, Nillson.

Helps them sign Stone, helps our immediate future depth.

Seems like a pure rental is out of the question here. Have to give up a lot and work out a lot just to possibly sign this one guy. I think if OTT moves Stone they either have a deal they like right now and are working hard to sign him, or end up getting far less at the last minute as a rental trade.


We can sign these guys or move on from them easy.

[djsFlames]

Also to be fair Lindholm on his own will end up producing the amount of points expected from both Neal and Lindholm when they were acquired based on their previous totals. Fourty some points each.

So technically we added the offence we spent for, even though 90% of it is coming through one guy.

Moving Brodie or Frolik in a potential stone acquisition frees up 4 and change to put towards the re-signing.

[Hoop27]

To clarify I'm only considering moving Brodie if you think Stone (ours) is going to be able to come back and contribute

[TheKurgan]

Stone/Duchene seems to be the sexy FA this year and will likely cost way too much. I am still hoping the Flames go for Kevin Hayes out of NY. Still a very good player, could fit in on your second line in place of Frolik, and friends with Johnny so shouldn't hurt the chemistry in the room. Also very unlikely that the Rangers on anyone's No Trade list. Deal could look like this:

To Calgary: Kevin Hayes
To the Rangers: 1st round pick and Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Hayes
Bennett - Jankowski - Neal
Mangiapane - Ryan - Hathaway

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

How about we take a hard left with OTT:

Stone (RD), 1st, top prospect (dube, manipagne) for Dzingel, Ceci, Nillson.

Helps them sign Stone, helps our immediate future depth.

Seems like a pure rental is out of the question here. Have to give up a lot and work out a lot just to possibly sign this one guy. I think if OTT moves Stone they either have a deal they like right now and are working hard to sign him, or end up getting far less at the last minute as a rental trade.


We can sign these guys or move on from them easy.

Seems like a massive overpay on our end. In what world would a package headlined by Dzingel get a top prospect and 1st? Nilsson is insurance depth and Ceci is garbage.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Brodie is getting sloppier as the games go on. We have Valimaki waiting in the wings. Might not be the worst move if it's for a bonafide top 6 forward or solution in net.

I think Brodie should be traded in the summer to recoup the futures assets we spend at the deadline. Moving his cap hit will hopefully allow the Flames to sign the rental they acquire.

Moving Frolik and Brodie would open up nearly $9M in money in the summer which could be enough to keep Stone if acquired?

[Beninho]

Some of you guys still underestimate the wizard, I don’t know why. If he trades for Stone he will have plan A plan B and Plan C on how to re-sign him.


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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Husky

Flames need to address goaltending asap. Majority of teams that win the cup have top tier #1 goalies.

But they do not add them in the final six weeks of the season. The Flames absolutely need an upgrade in goal, but outside of a minor tweak this is not something that is truly addressed until the offseason.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

But they do not add them in the final six weeks of the season. The Flames absolutely need an upgrade in goal, but outside of a minor tweak this is not something that is truly addressed until the offseason.

Yeah, at this stage (barring injury of course) were riding into the playoffs with what we’ve got. Tre isn’t likely spending assets on a goaltender when he will be able to sign one July 1st as a free agent. If picks and prospects are involved this trade deadline, it’ll be to augment the top 6, add some sandpaper and possibly the 5/6 d-corps.

[Wolfman]

Nvm

[colbym72]

If GMBT does something, I hope he doesnt wait until deadline day. With four games in six days with deadline day right in the middle, it would be nice to have the new additions for that stretch and acclimated with his new linemates

[Toonage]

Hasn't Treliving done his deadline stuff around Family Day? Wouldn't be shocked to see something happen this weekend.

[FlamesAddiction]

Not that I would say no to Stone at the right price, but scoring is far from an issue with this team. Keeping pucks out of the net is the main issue.

I wouldn't go after a big name defenseman because they always seem to take a full season to gel on a new team. Veteran depth and a goalie should be the main priorities at the deadline.

[Demzy84]

Originally Posted by Hoop27

Brodie, Frolik, and a 1st for Stone get the conversation going with OTT?

If this is what it takes, I think I am fine with the trade if it comes with Stone extended. We have the depth on D to lose someone like Brodie, especially with Valimaki and Stone ready to return soon.

Plus trading Frolik and Brodie give us the cap space to sign Stone and Tkachuk, then we have all but 1 of our top 6 players locked up for 4 years or more (Johnny the only one being 3 years).

If we trade Brodie, who would slot up into the top pairing with Gio then?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Not that I would say no to Stone at the right price, but scoring is far from an issue with this team. Keeping pucks out of the net is the main issue.

Agreed, but that is why Stone is more appealing to this team than Panarin. His two way game is much needed.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Not that I would say no to Stone at the right price, but scoring is far from an issue with this team. Keeping pucks out of the net is the main issue.

I wouldn't go after a big name defenseman because they always seem to take a full season to gel on a new team. Veteran depth and a goalie should be the main priorities at the deadline.

Stone Does that too. He is an excellent Defensive forward.

Add Stone, a Veteran Dman for PK and Defensive deployment. Plus Vet backup. Boom.. Increased chances of a long run.

[Vinny01]

Stone is the unicorn of the deadline for the Flames. He brings size, skill, and his style of play fits the team like a glove. Hayes looks like a pretty good plan B but not sure the team would prioritize signing him long term as they would with Stone