2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[TheScorpion]

That's super weird. Pettersen isn't renowned enough to have a ton of leaguewide value, but he's been very impressive in his brief college career thus far and the Flames shouldn't want to trade him.

Guys like Kylington or Dubé are far more likely to be in play for bigger trade targets. Not that I'd like the Flames to trade either guy -- in fact, I would strongly dislike it if they did -- but they make more sense, in terms of being valuable assets perhaps shunned by the big club's depth.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

How much stock do people put into the presence of scouts into these sorts of reports in connection to potential trades? I have long suspected that most teams want to have as many scouts as possible in attendance at as many games as possible. Judging one team's interest in another team's players from the presence of scouts at a game is probably more coincidental than anything.

Pretty much.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...eadline-chips/

Suggests Emilio Pettersen is the Flames' biggest trading chip. Huh?

Quietly putting up some killer stats in college. PPG as an 18 YO almost ensures an NHL career

[TheScorpion]

Interesting about Pettersen: his NHLe during his freshman, D+1 year thus far has been 37 points.

Gaudreau's NHLe during his freshman year? 32 points.

Something to keep track of. Gaudreau also meteorically improved throughout college -- we'll see if Pettersen can chart in a similar way. Still don't think he's the Flames' top trading chip, though

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...eadline-chips/

Suggests Emilio Pettersen is the Flames' biggest trading chip. Huh?

He is a huge asset for a 6th rd pick. Point a game as a freshman with DU.

As a comparison, Oliver Wahlstrom , 11th pick in the 1st rd by NYI, is .5 points a game with BC ,as a freshman.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

I don’t know enough about NCAA divisions. Are points at the university of Denver the same as at some of the more big name hockey programs?

[TheScorpion]

Yes, the NCHC is one of the more competitive NCAA divisions. It features North Dakota, Minnesota-Duluth, St. Cloud...

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

I don’t know enough about NCAA divisions. Are points at the university of Denver the same as at some of the more big name hockey programs?

NCHC has 3 teams in the NCAA top 10 rankings , including DU at #7 and St.Cloud at #1.

DU has been as high as 4.

[Sandman]

Can't remember where I saw it, but apparently Emilio-Pettersen has really turned heads around the league. Seems like they really got a steal when it comes to him-I think they said he's a blue-chipper now....

[oldschoolcalgary]

great article on the camaraderie on this team...

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...es-locker-room

sounds like the team is really loose and having a ton of fun together...

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

great article on the camaraderie on this team...

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...es-locker-room

sounds like the team is really loose and having a ton of fun together...

Trade them all

[AC]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Can't remember where I saw it, but apparently Emilio-Pettersen has really turned heads around the league. Seems like they really got a steal when it comes to him-I think they said he's a blue-chipper now....

Corey Pronman had an article out recently "Biggest risers from the 2018 NHL Draft"

https://theathletic.com/673290/2018/...018-nhl-draft/

Without posting more, here's his review of Emilio:

Emilio Pettersen, C, Calgary (Denver-NCHC)

2018 projection: Fringe prospect

Current projection: Legit NHL prospect

Draft slot: No. 167

The top U19 scorer in the NCAA – a group comprised of players who are draft-eligible for the first time or were picked in the most recent draft – is not a first-round pick, like Oliver Wahlstrom, Joel Farabee or K’Andre Miller, but rather the Norwegian sixth-round pick by Calgary.

Pettersen is a fascinating prospect. He’s been on the prospect radar for years, but last season he was somewhat underwhelming. With Muskegon in the USHL, he was a good yet not amazing forward, and some USHL people and NHL scouts were skeptical he would be drafted because he’s a small forward who lacks pace and physicality in his game, and has just ok numbers.

Early on in this NCAA season, though, the promise of Pettersen’s skill set is on display. He’s a driver at even-strength, and creating off the half-wall on the top power play unit for one of the best schools in the country. I’ve watched Denver games where he stands out in arguably the best conference in the NCAA, making highly skilled plays and moving the puck very well. He also shows good pace and elusiveness. He’s by no means a perfect player, and I wouldn’t take him ahead of those aforementioned first-rounders, but all indicators this season are that the sixth-round pick from last summer vaulted himself back onto the NHL radar.

“That was an unbelievable pick,” said Denver’s coach David Carle said of Pettersen going to Calgary. “He’s highly skilled, his head is up most of the time, he can make special plays. In the second half of the USHL season, he was a point per game. His game has really taken off since about Christmas of last year. People are going to talk about his size and straight-away skating, but with his desire to be a hockey player, I don’t see him being denied the opportunity [to be an NHLer] at some point in his career.

Also really interesting that he names 12 players as big risers, 3 of which are Flames. Pettersen, Pospisil, and Zavgorodniy.

[MrMike]

I can see Dube as being a big chip, along with a first getting anyone we want. Use extra draft picks to sweeten a cap dump ala 3rd next year and Frolik.

I really believe Stone will be a Flame going into these playoffs that push us over the hump.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

That's super weird. Pettersen isn't renowned enough to have a ton of leaguewide value, but he's been very impressive in his brief college career thus far and the Flames shouldn't want to trade him.

Guys like Kylington or Dubé are far more likely to be in play for bigger trade targets. Not that I'd like the Flames to trade either guy -- in fact, I would strongly dislike it if they did -- but they make more sense, in terms of being valuable assets perhaps shunned by the big club's depth.

Petterson was sort of like Gaudreau back when he was drafted. A lot of scouts saw the undeniable skill, but questioned his size (he isn't tiny, but smaller than average) and whether his skill was all flash. He is showing that he can improve and play at a higher level so far, so I am not surprised that his stock is rising.

If the asking price for Zucarello is as low as rumoured, I hope Tre takes a flyer on him.

With Ferland, I am really apprehensive. He would not be getting the same minutes in Calgary as Carolina, so I would expect a drop in production... not to mention the injury risk. Plus, I think Carolina would be looking for something massive from us since they would need to make good on the trade-back. I just don't see it happening unless they think it's best for Ferland and are willing to sacrifice some return. It's not unheard of for a team to do that.

[MrMike]

No to Ferland. With his cost then add a little more to get a big name.

With Tre, I feel like if something happens, it may come out of left field like it always does.

Did we even think Lindholm was a target this offseason? Hanafin?

Even Neal we all were completely amazed that happened.


Watch it be Couturier, Hoffman, Carter. But if there is term I expect them to be young and worth it.

[442scotty]

Flames get a possible steal in the draft and people want to trade him and others like him away...

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

Flames get a possible steal in the draft and people want to trade him and others like him away...

Trade them for a better chance at the cup now... you know, the reason why they play (besides $)

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by AC

Corey Pronman had an article out recently "Biggest risers from the 2018 NHL Draft"

https://theathletic.com/673290/2018/...018-nhl-draft/

Without posting more, here's his review of Emilio:


Also really interesting that he names 12 players as big risers, 3 of which are Flames. Pettersen, Pospisil, and Zavgorodniy.

This, and a few other emerging gems over the years, only reinforces my willingness for the Flames to trade what will be a late first round pick.

The team is slowly earning a reputation as thorough and effective when it comes to drafting and scouting.

[sureLoss]

Dreger says things are heating up around Cam Talbot, but he is unsure of what the return will be. With Sekera needing to come of LTIR soon, Talbot would be a likely candidate for the Oilers to move off their roster for cap space.

https://www.nicholsonhockey.com/arch...t-trade-market

“You’ve got Cam Talbot from the Edmonton Oilers who’s in play, obviously, given the Koskinen contract extension,” noted Dreger as part of a discussion on the Detroit Red Wings and the overall NHL goalie market. “My information as of yesterday was that things are starting to heat up in Edmonton around Talbot. I wouldn’t say a deal is imminent, but the interest is developing.”

“Talbot is going to fetch something that matters in return,” indicated Dreger. “But it’s not going to be a top-six forward. So what’s it likely going to be. Is it a young NHL roster player and a pick. Is it a better pick and a prospect. I don’t know what the Oilers are looking for Talbot. What I know is that the interest is developing around Cam Talbot.”

[Doctorfever]

Interesting article on TSN website.

https://www.tsn.ca/countdown-to-trad...race-1.1249843

It's coming from LeBrun, so take it for what its worth.


Quote;
"But here’s the thing: They almost signed Ryan Reaves last summer - a lot of people perhaps didn’t hear that. They actually thought they had him, but then Reaves had a last-minute change of heart and went back to Vegas. But I think when they included Ferland in the Carolina deal, I think they thought they were getting Reaves. So I think they feel probably they need a little more muscle up front, even though James Neal is a pretty rugged offensive player on the third line. So I think that’s the idea for Calgary

Basically, he sees Calgary looking for size / strength up front. I hope they stay away from Ferland. Who else would fit that category, at a reasonable cost (that would also remove Simmonds)? More like a tougher depth type guy.