01-23-2019, 11:04 AM
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#481
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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You have to wonder at this point if McDavid asks for a trade before the end of the season. There's no way he's happy about Nicholson's decision to stand pat with what they currently have, given his recent comments.
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01-23-2019, 11:06 AM
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#482
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KipperFaNaTic
McDavid is gonna bolt like Lebron. Generational talent wasted because of an incompetent front office not being able to attract enough help.
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Except Lebron kept his options open and didn't sign an 8 year deal after his rookie contract. McDavid has himself to blame if he wants out of there.
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01-23-2019, 11:06 AM
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#483
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
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The fireworks are a nice touch.
oo, you can click to get more! Fun!
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01-23-2019, 11:07 AM
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#484
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by direwolf
You have to wonder at this point if McDavid asks for a trade before the end of the season. There's no way he's happy about Nicholson's decision to stand pat with what they currently have, given his recent comments.
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I give him until this time next year to make that decision. He wont ask to leave until he is completely broken.
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01-23-2019, 11:07 AM
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#485
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Except Lebron kept his options open and didn't sign an 8 year deal after his rookie contract. McDavid has himself to blame if he wants out of there.
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When someone offers you $100M, you say yes. You can always demand a trade.
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01-23-2019, 11:13 AM
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#486
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First Line Centre
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The Oilers are dead in the water. They can’t give up any of their 3 or 4 good players, despite what they claim they have nothing in the pipeline, they alienated Talbot who is probably going to play “screw you” at trade time... They are totally, completely and utterly effed. I love it
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01-23-2019, 11:13 AM
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#487
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by direwolf
You have to wonder at this point if McDavid asks for a trade before the end of the season. There's no way he's happy about Nicholson's decision to stand pat with what they currently have, given his recent comments.
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IMO I think this firing actually means they won't stand pat.
If they were actually just going to do nothing and let the season ride out they would have just waited and fired Chiarelli in the offseason.
But I think the Oilers management team / ownership group actually wants to make a big splash to try and make the playoffs this year.
Then they saw the big negative backlash from the Koskinen hiring being made by Chiarelli and realized they couldn't have him making any more big moves from a public perception standpoint.
The stuff around still believing they are a playoff team, thinking they have better assets now then when Chiarelli took over, and that they think they are 1 or 2 pieces away from winning screams a big move to me.
Also they fire Chiarelli but the guy he brought with him from Boston, who was Chiarelli's hand picked right hand man, takes over...what really is changing.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 01-23-2019 at 11:20 AM.
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01-23-2019, 11:16 AM
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#488
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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I just can’t wait till trade deadline day and see what the OBC has cooking up!
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01-23-2019, 11:17 AM
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#489
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
When someone offers you $100M, you say yes. You can always demand a trade.
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That doesn't mean you get one though. Bad press you (and the team) will get. Annoyances from the NHLPA you will (probably) get. Your agent might not be overly happy, but that's debatable.
And you have to find a team that will take you, your high-priced contract and three of your best friends (and their high-priced contracts)....
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01-23-2019, 11:17 AM
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#490
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Love to see Mark Spector with the heavy hitting article loaded with strong language criticizing Chiarelli now that he's out the door. The usual baby soft wipe powder puff pieces are done with for Mark! Now don't make Mark write something bad about a Gretzky though.
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01-23-2019, 11:19 AM
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#491
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Spector and Baghdad Bob (thanks for that one, Estrada!) are practically giddy about all the prospects who will be clamouring to take the GM job in Edmonton.
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01-23-2019, 11:21 AM
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#492
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Do we know what the terms of Chiarelli contract were?
In other words, did he set himself up for life?
Nobody outside will take that job without ridiculous salary guarantees, imo.
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01-23-2019, 11:23 AM
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#493
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot
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And the Defense?
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01-23-2019, 11:24 AM
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#494
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
IMO I think this firing actually means they won't stand pat.
If they were actually just going to do nothing and let the season ride out they would have just waited and fired Chiarelli in the offseason.
But I think the Oilers management team / ownership group actually wants to make a big splash to try and make the playoffs this year.
Then they saw the big negative backlash from the Koskinen hiring being made by Chiarelli and realized they couldn't have him making any more big moves from a public perception standpoint.
The stuff around still believing they are a playoff team, thinking they have better assets now then when Chiarelli took over, and that they think they are 1 or 2 pieces away from winning screams a big move to me.
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I think you're mostly on track except kosten'em.
Spector took it upon himself to let everyone know what a big shot insider he was proclaiming chiarelli was solely responsible for signing/negotiating with koskinen.
Then he asked Nicholson about it today, who very flatly refuted spectors 'reporting' right to his face. It was a group decision.
Frankly, I see the chia firing coming down now for 1 or 2 reasons:
Reason 1) chiarelli was not willing to continue to make terrible moves that would cost the organization dearly like moving pool party or a top 10 pick etc, or take a terrible deal to move Talbot. So they fired him to get someone in his chair who WOULD be willing to make those kinds of idiotic moves. Enter Scott howson stage left.
Reason 2) Chiarelli was simply unable to consummate any deals league wide because he was driving too hard of a bargain or because of residual negative feelings towards the oilers from organizations/GMs around the league, so they fired him to let everyone know Scott howson was open for business.
All you needed to hear today was confirmation the oil won't be naming anyone acting or interim GM. I used to do #### like that when I didn't want my name attached to subpar work. "Nah, go ahead, I don't need my name on the website."
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01-23-2019, 11:24 AM
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#495
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First Line Centre
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LOL gosh I love watching the continuous tire fire up north...
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01-23-2019, 11:24 AM
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#496
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rural AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VilleN
Could this be the new E=NG thread title: "We've got good players! We've got good staff! The problem is in Edmonton's water!" ?
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Bobby "Boucher" Nicholson!
"those are his yellow stained jerseys hanging on the line there" - "momma!!!"
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01-23-2019, 11:25 AM
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#497
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Calgary
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01-23-2019, 11:28 AM
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#498
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 442scotty
The Oilers are dead in the water. They can’t give up any of their 3 or 4 good players, despite what they claim they have nothing in the pipeline, they alienated Talbot who is probably going to play “screw you” at trade time... They are totally, completely and utterly effed. I love it
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Mystery solved! It was their own carcasses the whole time!
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01-23-2019, 11:35 AM
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#499
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I think you're mostly on track except kosten'em.
Spector took it upon himself to let everyone know what a big shot insider he was proclaiming chiarelli was solely responsible for signing/negotiating with koskinen.
Then he asked Nicholson about it today, who very flatly refuted spectors 'reporting' right to his face. It was a group decision.
Frankly, I see the chia firing coming down now for 1 or 2 reasons:
Reason 1) chiarelli was not willing to continue to make terrible moves that would cost the organization dearly like moving pool party or a top 10 pick etc, or take a terrible deal to move Talbot. So they fired him to get someone in his chair who WOULD be willing to make those kinds of idiotic moves. Enter Scott howson stage left.
Reason 2) Chiarelli was simply unable to consummate any deals league wide because he was driving too hard of a bargain or because of residual negative feelings towards the oilers from organizations/GMs around the league, so they fired him to let everyone know Scott howson was open for business.
All you needed to hear today was confirmation the oil won't be naming anyone acting or interim GM. I used to do #### like that when I didn't want my name attached to subpar work. "Nah, go ahead, I don't need my name on the website."
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I believe this nothing more than a PR move to appease the masses who had simply had enough, and Chia was the patsy to make it look good.
OBC is alive and well....even though it doesn't exist according to Nicholson.
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