[News] Oilers fire Chiarelli. Nicholson: "There is something in the water here in Edmonton." - Page 15 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Saqe · 01-23-2019, 08:39 AM

What a sad day

Toonage · 01-23-2019, 08:40 AM

Considering this change for a long time....letting him make franchise altering trades and signings....

Cuz · 01-23-2019, 08:41 AM

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Does anyone know if the Flames wanted to bring him on as a pro scout after the all star break would they need permission? Also if the Flames ended up winning the cup would Chia get a ring if he joined?

Can I have whatever you're smoking?

Textcritic · 01-23-2019, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Who could have predicted making a 19 year old the captain would not work out. I have a 20 year old kid (with more education and work experience than McDavid did) and I wouldn't make him captain of doing yardwork at my house.

I think back to some of the great teams I watched. No team ever anointed a guy captain without some NHL experience. And most of them didn't just go with "best player".

Loubardias ended by comparing the Oilers's young players to the situation the Flames are currently in. He said that Monahan and Gaudreau are now approaching 25-years-old, winning is hard, and they have worked their asses off for a long time to get to where we are now.

It gave me pause to think about how important Mark Giordano, TJ Brodie and Mikael Backlund have been for this team. All three were developed in the organization and the Flames are all they have ever known. When there are three good players like that in place, there is no opportunity for entitlement for anyone. Not ever.

Jimmy Stang · 01-23-2019, 08:42 AM

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LOL one of my favorite stats of all time is the highest scoring brother tandem of all time in the NHL is Wayne and Keith at 2861 points, (2857 for Wayne and 4 for Keith)...

... so ya, they know a thing or two about winning

That title actually belongs to the other brother: Brent Gretzky. Return ALL FOUR of those points to the rightful owner, you filthy animal.

Oilers front office now says : "Forget Keith. Is Brent available?"

dash_pinched · 01-23-2019, 08:43 AM

I doubt we will discover the answer at the presser today, but I wonder who signed off on the Koskinen extension? I mean did Chiarelli actually still have the power to complete that transaction without consultation or did he run it by the OBC and they agreed to do it?

Textcritic · 01-23-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Toonage

Considering this change for a long time....letting him make franchise altering trades and signings....

Don't kid yourself. The OBC has been rubber-stamping everything Chiarelli has been doing for weeks now. The baffling hockey decisions he has made most recently were ones that they approved.

Toonage · 01-23-2019, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

Don't kid yourself. The OBC has been rubber-stamping everything Chiarelli has been doing for weeks now. The baffling hockey decisions he has made most recently were ones that they approved.

Exactly.

GioforPM · 01-23-2019, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Toews & Crosby were both also named captains after their rookie season.

Not saying I agree with it. But it worked for them.

Just another reason Edmonton is no good.

Crosby was being mentored by Mario though, and he was given an A after Mario stepped out. He was actually made captain after his second season, not his first. He actually was offered it during that season, but reportedly turned it down, which says a lot.

Toews was indeed named captain after his rookie year - but they didn't go with Kane who scored more and was the Calder winner. He was also not a teenager (barely).

Shazam · 01-23-2019, 08:47 AM

I just can't stop laughing about the whole thing.

habernac · 01-23-2019, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Who could have predicted making a 19 year old the captain would not work out. I have a 20 year old kid (with more education and work experience than McDavid did) and I wouldn't make him captain of doing yardwork at my house.

I think back to some of the great teams I watched. No team ever anointed a guy captain without some NHL experience. And most of them didn't just go with "best player".

Even the most talented guy is set up to fail when you surround him with crap.

BurningYears · 01-23-2019, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Who could have predicted making a 19 year old the captain would not work out. I have a 20 year old kid (with more education and work experience than McDavid did) and I wouldn't make him captain of doing yardwork at my house.

I think back to some of the great teams I watched. No team ever anointed a guy captain without some NHL experience. And most of them didn't just go with "best player".

"Let's Go"

Shazam · 01-23-2019, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BurningYears

"Let's Go"

"Straight Down!"

smiggy77 · 01-23-2019, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

That title actually belongs to the other brother: Brent Gretzky. Return ALL FOUR of those points to the rightful owner, you filthy animal.

Oilers front office now says : "Forget Keith. Is Brent available?"

DAMNIT! Pulled an Chia and f'd that one up.

psyang · 01-23-2019, 08:49 AM

The only reason I can think of for them to fire Chiarelli after letting him sign Koskinen is that Oiler's management is swayed by public opinion. If there was fan/media support for the signing, I bet Chia would still be around even with last night's loss. It also explains why they work so hard to control the media message and seed forums with pro-Oiler posts. Oiler fans have to look at themselves and realize if they hadn't blindly accepted the many excuses from management, they likely would be cheering for a better team.

Fuzz · 01-23-2019, 08:52 AM

I sure wish Chia could give an "exit interview" to the media, but I assume he will have signed a gag order of some sort...

GioforPM · 01-23-2019, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by habernac

Even the most talented guy is set up to fail when you surround him with crap.

Agreed. But, in addition, talent has little to do with leadership. Give me a guy like Gio - never drafted, had to scrap for every advancement in his career. Hell, give me a guy like Stajan who has seen all kinds of roles on a team.

What's 19 year old McDavid going to say to a fourth line veteran. "Hey, you've got to skate faster and do crossovers to the net - it works for me".

Otto-matic · 01-23-2019, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

I sure wish Chia could give an "exit interview" to the media, but I assume he will have signed a gag order of some sort...

He's probably already on a beach in SoCal with Todd.

4X4 · 01-23-2019, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

I sure wish Chia could give an "exit interview" to the media, but I assume he will have signed a gag order of some sort...

Most guys will never trash the team they got fired from, fearing that they'll never get another gig. In this case, I wonder if he pretty much has to say something, or else he wears the guilt for life.

I would not be surprised if he alludes to being a marionette.

Saqe · 01-23-2019, 08:56 AM

Nothing good can come out of this, Chia has been the worst of the bunch they've had. They may just actually hire a competent GM this time.

I'm quit worried right now even though that team is loaded with bad contracts. At least Chia managed to squeak in that last deal with Koskinen to give his plan some longevity.