Its time to promote GG to GM. I mean it cant be coincidence that there initials are so close it has to be fate.
Even better: Hitch as GM, and GG as HC
I will be surprised if Hitch (likely with 0 autonomy, no less) ends up being less respected and informed than Chia... and we know what GG can do to a team.
Can't wait for McDavid to demand a trade this summer. He and his agent aren't dumb enough to believe that a new GM changes anything, with the OBC up above, and there is no way that Katz fires his heroes.
Oiler fans should blame McDavid. If he doesn't become an Oiler, no way Chiarelli takes this job and runs the team into the ground. Connor needs to take a good long look in the mirror today...
I know you are half joking, but did anyone listen to Peter Loubardias rip McHobo in the post-game show last night? It was glorious.
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Chia will probably (I say probably because you can never discount the stupidity of some owners) never work again in the NHL as a GM. One has to wonder if he gets another NHL job in any capacity so a book may not be far fetched. I'm not exactly sure why any quality GM candidates would even consider this job knowing the damage that will be done to their reputation long term. They will probably have to hire a retread who's just happy to get another job or some green assistant GM that lacks the patience to wait for a good opportunity.
Jay Feaster got another NHL job and I think their resumes are pretty similar. Granted, not as a GM.
The next GM really has an impossible task. All they can do is attempt to burn it down by getting rid of contracts and piling up picks. I could see them trading RNH, Russell, Klefbom, maybe Larsson and Nurse, just to try and create some space to do something.
Probably also a full on tank to get up into a high lottery pick.
Chia will probably (I say probably because you can never discount the stupidity of some owners) never work again in the NHL as a GM. One has to wonder if he gets another NHL job in any capacity so a book may not be far fetched. I'm not exactly sure why any quality GM candidates would even consider this job knowing the damage that will be done to their reputation long term. They will probably have to hire a retread who's just happy to get another job or some green assistant GM that lacks the patience to wait for a good opportunity.
Give it a few years and I'm sure if he packages himself up with a pack of trading cards, the Oilers will welcome him back with open arms.
I wish I could find archived audio, but from what I recall the panel was roasting Chiarelli and the OBC, and Lou chimed in and said that a lot of this debacle has to be laid at the feet of the players. He said that the culture in the room is toxic. He did not directly implicate McDavid, but then talked about being too young and getting things handed over too quickly. That just because one is a great hockey player—perhaps even the best in the world—that does not mean he is ready to lead a team.
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"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
Jay Feaster got another NHL job and I think their resumes are pretty similar. Granted, not as a GM.
Feaster is not in hockey ops at all - it's community stuff.
Oilers will have trouble because Seattle will be hiring a GM and who wouldn't prefer that? If McCrimmon is the top choice, why would he not be a no brainer for Seattle - he's already got experience in an expansion draft scenario.
The next GM really has an impossible task. All they can do is attempt to burn it down by getting rid of contracts and piling up picks. I could see them trading RNH, Russell, Klefbom, maybe Larsson and Nurse, just to try and create some space to do something.
Probably also a full on tank to get up into a high lottery pick.
I don't think the "everything is available for a F to make the 2019 playoffs" was a Chia idea.
They still need to make the playoffs this year, or they run into issues with box and season ticket renewals.
I think you see a few more paperclips and buttons before they start trying to build a new house
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I wish I could find archived audio, but from what I recall the panel was roasting Chiarelli and the OBC, and Lou chimed in and said that a lot of this debacle has to be laid at the feet of the players. He said that the culture in the room is toxic. He did not directly implicate McDavid, but then talked about being too young and getting things handed over too quickly. That just because one is a great hockey player—perhaps even the best in the world—that does not mean he is ready to lead a team.
This is a really good point, and something that's plagued the oilers through all of their consecutive rebuilds so far. They've given all their high picks a massive sense of entitlement. Always given, never earned. It starts at the top, and has bled it's way down over and over again.
You keep hearing about how toxic the room is all the time. Bad habits developed on and off the ice. They pretty much had to trade Hall because of it IMO, and luckily for us Chiarelli ended up being the one to negotiate that trade.
Pretty soon, I wager, we will see McDavid force his way out of there too.
What a toxic organization they are. And you can bet it's been magnified 10x this season with the Flames rebuild finally turning the corner into President's trophy and Stanley Cup contending status.
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Between Wayne and Keith, the brothers have a boatload of NHL success.
EDIT: Damnit. Wrong brother!
LOL one of my favorite stats of all time is the highest scoring brother tandem of all time in the NHL is Wayne and Keith Brent at 2861 points, (2857 for Wayne and 4 for Keith)...
... so ya, they know a thing or two about winning Guess not lol
I wish I could find archived audio, but from what I recall the panel was roasting Chiarelli and the OBC, and Lou chimed in and said that a lot of this debacle has to be laid at the feet of the players. He said that the culture in the room is toxic. He did not directly implicate McDavid, but then talked about being too young and getting things handed over too quickly. That just because one is a great hockey player—perhaps even the best in the world—that does not mean he is ready to lead a team.
Who could have predicted making a 19 year old the captain would not work out. I have a 20 year old kid (with more education and work experience than McDavid did) and I wouldn't make him captain of doing yardwork at my house.
I think back to some of the great teams I watched. No team ever anointed a guy captain without some NHL experience. And most of them didn't just go with "best player".
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Who could have predicted making a 19 year old the captain would not work out. I have a 20 year old kid (with more education and work experience than McDavid did) and I wouldn't make him captain of doing yardwork at my house.
I think back to some of the great teams I watched. No team ever anointed a guy captain without some NHL experience. And most of them didn't just go with "best player".
Toews & Crosby were both also named captains after their rookie season.
Not saying I agree with it. But it worked for them.
feels like the Oilers are trying to make this look less knee jerky
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As disappointing as last nights loss to Detroit was, the decision to fire Peter Chiarelli was made before the game. Obviously, ownership and senior management have been considering this change for a long time.
