2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[oldschoolcalgary]

I am really curious to see if Lazar has improved...

i am hoping he gets called up for the playoffs as i think his speed and hitting is a big asset... if his confidence with the puck has improved then he might be the kind of player that can make an impact without trading any assets for...

not sure how the waiver works in that case...

[Toonage]

A lot of players dominate AHL level but can't translate that to the NHL. With his skill set, I expect a player like Lazar to dominate in the AHL. But we know what he is up here. He hasn't changed, but the level of play around him did.

[Wolfman]

I am willing to go after Simmonds. As long as it doesn't cost a 1st. If it does you walk away.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I can see you are trying hard to hold onto this Bennett/frolik thing being a toss up, but it plainly isn't.

The fact is, if you think Bennett is worth 3 million per year because he scores at a 30 point pace playing with only one guy on the whole team, then you should be immediately disqualified from talking #### about draisaitl and his contract.

It doesn't matter if he plays 11 minutes or 15, he produces like a 4th liner. The only variable where he doesn't is with Tkachuk, so why on Earth would you pay him based on that?

Yes, if given better players and more ice, guys will produce more. But you don't DOUBLE your offensive output because you're playing 14:30 a night instead of 13:30. You double your offensive output when played with the second best playmaker on the team.

I'm not saying that at all.

I've said Peters uses them both which is true. That one tends to be the 6th one night, the other the 7th.

And I said Bennett between 2.5 and 2.75.

His numbers suggest 2.86 based on what players with similar points per game rates are getting this year.

Where are you getting your individual production numbers with specific player data? I've been looking for that forever. I'm guessing Frolik will look pretty good with Tkachuk and not as good away from him as well. Maybe Lindholm is a 4th liner when he's not with Gaudreau?

Still think it's silly to point out one player produces more when he's playing with the top two lines than he does when he's not. Its sort of like dropping a pen and than acting shocked it hit the floor.

[Samuelsson]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Its sort of like dropping a pen and than acting shocked it hit the floor.

And we all know that this is because this flat earth we live on is accelerating upwards, don't we?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ped

Everyone's been blinded by Tavares and Matthews, et al, but the Leafs have really been top-heavy.


Kadri has struggled (to be expected as Tavares has pushed him down) and Marleau has really dropped off a cliff as late. Lindholm has 1 goal.



As an aside, I hate how Babcock manages his bottom half of the lineup. Justin Holl has played in 2 games this year. If you don't think he's good enough for your lineup, then they should send them down. They did the same thing last year with Leivo and with Corrado previously.


I know Leaf fans are immediately going to to defensive, saying if they were good enough they would play and blah blah blah, but these guys aren't going to get any better not playing, and I just think it's a terrible way to treat them. Plus, if you don't think they're good enough for your team, then why would you want to keep them off waivers so bad?

This is the risk with players in their mid-30's. At 38 years old last season he still looked to have his legs and this season he looks like he may not even be able to beat Lucic in a race. When you get into that age it can end really quickly for players. We have seen it here with Hiller and Smith. Hopefully Gio can hold off father time for three more seasons.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The Flames have four clear cut star forwards, a clear next best forward in Backlund and then a Frolik/Bennett toss up for the 6th guy. Because of that they both have time on the 2nd and 3rd lines and with that get a % of time with top players and a % of time without.

They are where they're meant to be or they wouldn't be there.

Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm not saying that at all.

ok dude...

Maybe Lindholm is a 4th liner when he's not with Gaudreau?

Ok dude, great chat.

[868904]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

I am really curious to see if Lazar has improved...

i am hoping he gets called up for the playoffs as i think his speed and hitting is a big asset... if his confidence with the puck has improved then he might be the kind of player that can make an impact without trading any assets for...

not sure how the waiver works in that case...

Lazar's skill set suggests he could be a Frolik type player. Fast, good size, some skills. Hopefully the Flames are telling him to watch a lot of Frolik and emulate his game. It's likely the Flames will move Frolik after this season and they will want someone who can step into his spot and compliment Tkachuk and Backlund.

[Shazam]

Lazar will never play for the Flames again unless there's a ton of injuries.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

ok dude...


Ok dude, great chat.

Look how silly this looks when I use the quote button. Nice contribution. I said more than that and you know it. Bennett and Frolik have been used as a toss up all season by an NHL coach, I'll go with that as an opinion if you don't mind.

But yeah you're drive bys are always appreciated.

You never gave me the site you use to look up those stats by the way ... missed it in your hurry to use the word "dude" twice?

[442scotty]

If they don’t trade him first, I expect that Lazar will get one more crack at sticking with the big club. Fast, big body who doesn’t mind hitting. He could be just what the doctor ordered for the playoffs where his game might also take off.

[Flash Walken]

Using your own posts to directly challenge you on your positions isn't a drive by, its a response to your increasingly incredulous responses when presented with conflicting information.

Maybe tkachuk should be on the fourth line!

Maybe Lindholm is a 4th liner away from gaudreau!

Maybe the Earth is flat and the sky is green!

So far I've contributed a lot more to this discussion than you have, including statistical breakdowns, trade valuations and recent signing cap comparables.

But if you're going to insist on absurdity to make your points, why bother?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Using your own posts to directly challenge you on your positions isn't a drive by, its a response to your increasingly incredulous responses when presented with conflicting information.

Maybe tkachuk should be on the fourth line!

Maybe Lindholm is a 4th liner away from gaudreau!

Maybe the Earth is flat and the sky is green!

So far I've contributed a lot more to this discussion than you have, including statistical breakdowns, trade valuations and recent signing cap comparables.

But if you're going to insist on absurdity to make your points, why bother?

Now you can't even be consistent on your own posts ... the drive by was the dude, ok dude fiasco, and you know it. Let it go.

Yeah that's me ... never contribute any data or stats to anything i post. Just a bunch of unsubstantiated opinion that requires no work and can't be proven.

Peters has used those two players interchangeably no? Or are you challenging that? Because that's what I was pointing out. A team has four star players, a clear 5 and two guys that have been used as #6.

Still waiting on that site for the stats btw ... you keep missing that?

[LWcrowfoot]

Bingo and Flash arguing about Bennett; name a more iconic duo

[Harry Lime]

Brett Ritchie and Nishuchkin both have a skill set that would translate well to the Flames style of play, but motivation seems to be a major factor with them. Anyone have any Dallas insight?

[dammage79]

I'd still take Nichushkin if he could be had. Top six potential is still there. Change scenery and maybe something happens. At worst he's a fast and big bottom six forward.

[Mattman]

https://twitter.com/Prospects_Watch/...268133376?s=19

Sorry I don't know how to embed tweets

There's more than just this tweet, Bob McKenzie was talking about Brassard just not working in Pittsburgh.

He's in the last year of his $5,000,000 contract. Would he be worth a pickup or try and get someone better?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Lazar will never play for the Flames again unless there's a ton of injuries.

I’d bet that you are wrong. I think he’s still in the plans. He’s playing well this year

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Mattman

https://twitter.com/Prospects_Watch/...268133376?s=19

Sorry I don't know how to embed tweets

There's more than just this tweet, Bob McKenzie was talking about Brassard just not working in Pittsburgh.

He's in the last year of his $5,000,000 contract. Would he be worth a pickup or try and get someone better?

That weird 3 way trade with Vegas resulted in the Knights eating some of Brassards contract where his cap hit is $3M. I suggested Ryan for him as it mentioned Pitt wants a 3C in return.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd still take Nichushkin if he could be had. Top six potential is still there. Change scenery and maybe something happens. At worst he's a fast and big bottom six forward.

It's funny how much patience people have for players on other teams, but not for Flames' players.

A year older than Bennett, only 2/3s the points, and a worse player in every regard (to this point), but not at all unreasonable to assume that he will figure it out.

Bennett? Is what he is apparently.