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Old 01-09-2019, 11:39 AM   #6521
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Flames need to beef up for the playoffs. Ferland and Maroon would be perfect.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:45 AM   #6522
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It's been almost 6 years since the last offer sheet (Ryan O'Reilly, lol) and only one hasn't been matched since the new rules (Dustin Penner to Oilers).


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It seems like NHL GMs have decided that offer sheets just aren't a good way to do business.
I wonder how much ill will Feaster generated with the other GMs with the O'Reilly offer sheet. Can't believe that Ken King didn't get fired for naming him our GM.
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Flames need to beef up for the playoffs. Ferland and Maroon would be perfect.
I agree with this, actually. The team needs to get bigger and tougher for the playoffs. Ferland and Maroon are both UFA's at the end of the season, making them excellent rentals. This also means that a few other teams will be looking at taking them, so the costs will likely be high. And, as per my earlier comment, I doubt Treliving would take Ferland back. I wouldn't mind him taking a shot at Maroon though.
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I agree with this, actually. The team needs to get bigger and tougher for the playoffs. Ferland and Maroon are both UFA's at the end of the season, making them excellent rentals. This also means that a few other teams will be looking at taking them, so the costs will likely be high. And, as per my earlier comment, I doubt Treliving would take Ferland back. I wouldn't mind him taking a shot at Maroon though.


I didn’t like Ferly when he left because I think he lost his game. He was that extra piece of the top line but not consistent enough to do it properly, and he vanished when he was moved down the depth chart.

That said, Ferly+expiring contract could make for an incredibly motivated player during a playoff run. If he were to put on his work boots, he could make a huge impact in the playoffs and earn himself a big payday (elsewhere).

...I’m still not big on spending assets for a rental up front though. I’d sooner pay a higher price and acquire someone like Schenn.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:58 AM   #6525
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I agree with this, actually. The team needs to get bigger and tougher for the playoffs. Ferland and Maroon are both UFA's at the end of the season, making them excellent rentals. This also means that a few other teams will be looking at taking them, so the costs will likely be high. And, as per my earlier comment, I doubt Treliving would take Ferland back. I wouldn't mind him taking a shot at Maroon though.
BT bringing Maroon is a real possibility, He shouldn't cost much. I don't see Carolina helping us out after BT fleeced them.
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I am not part of the beef up for the playoffs crowd. This is not 2004 anymore and while the games up the intensity I just don't see it needed with this club.
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It's been almost 6 years since the last offer sheet (Ryan O'Reilly, lol) and only one hasn't been matched since the new rules (Dustin Penner to Oilers).


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It seems like NHL GMs have decided that offer sheets just aren't a good way to do business.
A lot of talk that we will see one or more this summer with the amount of high profile RFA’s out there. I don’t see teams losing high profile guys which is where I could see a scenario where a team sneaks in and perhaps overpays Bennett a little bit on the AAV where it makes the Flames think twice about matching.
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Yep, we have beef in Neal and Bennett and Gio and Hamonic and Hathaway. You can also add Lindholm who does not get bounced off the puck and mucks as good as anyone in the corners and along the boards.

Flames need one more similar Lindholm type to add to the FW's . No Maroons or Ferlands pretty please.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:18 PM   #6529
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Maroon is a bonehead (low hockey IQ player, I don't mean this as a personal insult). I would prefer Ferland but I doubt the 'Canes GM would trade him back to Calgary, because that would make him look silly. May require a third team to make it work.
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Chris Kreider would also interest me.

Big, fast, only 27, having a good season and also not a pure rental with still one more year left on his deal.
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I am not part of the beef up for the playoffs crowd. This is not 2004 anymore and while the games up the intensity I just don't see it needed with this club.
Remember, players are not paid to play in the playoffs. They play for pride (and future considerations, of course). And each and every player plays better than normal for him during playoffs in a hope to get to the SC final. When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, bigger teams have better chances to win SC. I can't think of an exception to this rule in the recent history. Most former NHL players confirm this when asked. Every GM confirms this when asked. Burke said it straight out on the CBC panel last year, when evaluating Washington chances against Vegas.
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A lot of talk that we will see one or more this summer with the amount of high profile RFA’s out there. I don’t see teams losing high profile guys which is where I could see a scenario where a team sneaks in and perhaps overpays Bennett a little bit on the AAV where it makes the Flames think twice about matching.
I suspect this is bluster by analysts hoping we'll tune into summer coverage. A GM sending out an offer sheet has an very low chance of getting their player, at the cost of their reputation.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:37 PM   #6533
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I suspect this is bluster by analysts hoping we'll tune into summer coverage. A GM sending out an offer sheet has an very low chance of getting their player, at the cost of their reputation.
This could be the summer it changes. Kesler, Backes, Bernier, Penner are 4 quick examples I could think of that signed offer sheets that were not marquee free agents at the time. Hjalmmerson and Neimi are 2 others.
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Remember, players are not paid to play in the playoffs. They play for pride (and future considerations, of course). And each and every player plays better than normal for him during playoffs in a hope to get to the SC final. When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, bigger teams have better chances to win SC. I can't think of an exception to this rule in the recent history. Most former NHL players confirm this when asked. Every GM confirms this when asked. Burke said it straight out on the CBC panel last year, when evaluating Washington chances against Vegas.
This assertion employs an excluded middle. The same statement can essentially be made of any variety or combination of hockey attributes:

"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, faster teams have better chances to win SC."
"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, higher skilled teams have better chances to win SC."
"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, better forechecking teams have better chances to win SC."
"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, strong defensive teams have better chances to win SC."


And so on, and so forth.
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Yep, we have beef in Neal and Bennett and Gio and Hamonic and Hathaway. You can also add Lindholm who does not get bounced off the puck and mucks as good as anyone in the corners and along the boards...
Sean Monahan has also really improved his board-play this year, and regularly outmuscles guys along the wall. He is becoming physically dominant.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:44 PM   #6536
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It's been almost 6 years since the last offer sheet (Ryan O'Reilly, lol) and only one hasn't been matched since the new rules (Dustin Penner to Oilers).


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It was never a good way to do business:

Posted for Burke’s opening comments, couldn’t find a shorter version.
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This assertion employs an excluded middle. The same statement can essentially be made of any variety or combination of hockey attributes:

"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, faster teams have better chances to win SC."
"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, higher skilled teams have better chances to win SC."
"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, better forechecking teams have better chances to win SC."
"When everyone plays hard, at the end of the day, strong defensive teams have better chances to win SC."


And so on, and so forth.
Sure. Add a better goaltender to that, which is probably the strongest factor of all in the playoffs. Yet, the size of a team is also very important. I was just addressing the comment about the size being meaningless.
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It's been almost 6 years since the last offer sheet (Ryan O'Reilly, lol) and only one hasn't been matched since the new rules (Dustin Penner to Oilers).


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So maybe Chia does it?
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Flames need to beef up for the playoffs. Ferland and Maroon would be perfect.
Ferland ok for cheap but God damn why do people want bone head to play here? No low IQ players.

Schenn is still who I'm holding out hope for. You can do it tre!!!!

I dont mind koekkoek as a 7d pickup either. I think we're seeing prout graven a shot to lock that up tonight though.
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Ferland ok for cheap but God damn why do people want bone head to play here? No low IQ players.

Schenn is still who I'm holding out hope for. You can do it tre!!!!

I dont mind koekkoek as a 7d pickup either. I think we're seeing prout graven a shot to lock that up tonight though.
Maroon can be useful as a xheap rental. Schenn would cost way to much and put us in Cap trouble. Cheap rentals is the way to go.
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