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Old 01-09-2019, 08:58 AM   #6501
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Eberle is as soft as a baby's bottom. Do not want.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:04 AM   #6502
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We should be able to get something useful from Ottawa for our first + prospects.

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Old 01-09-2019, 09:09 AM   #6503
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Frolik is easily tradeable in offseason for a draft pick, as he can help a team and is not a negative asset. I am down on him in this trade though as I am trying to position myself as the Islanders: he is at best a lateral move for them (stability vs scoring upside, save money, cost certainty next year) so why do it unless you can get something worthwhile?
This is the second straight year that Frolik has been underwhelming. I don’t get why people think he can easily be moved for a pick. Maybe if the Flames add a higher pick?

Frolik and a 3rd for a 4th?

Islanders are going for the playoffs and Eberle and Frolik are in similar spots being high priced wingers that are struggling under their new coaches. I am hoping the Islanders would consider the deal because they are on the playoff bubble but they might balk.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:19 AM   #6504
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if all your going to give me is a 3 or 4th round pick for Frolich, happy to keep him. not just about points, he plays a 200' game, strong on forecheck, does all the things that I think will help our playoffs come time. Deal with him in the off season but no reason to discard him now
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Frolik should not be flipped unless a ready-now asset that can contribute is coming back. No middle-round picks, we're not looking to sell. Frolik is the kind of guy you want to go deep with in the playoffs, you need that depth for a long run - and that time is basically now to do it.
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if all your going to give me is a 3 or 4th round pick for Frolich, happy to keep him. not just about points, he plays a 200' game, strong on forecheck, does all the things that I think will help our playoffs come time. Deal with him in the off season but no reason to discard him now
I was talking about the off-season. I wouldn’t be shocked if we have to buy him out. I can easily see the Flames losing a guy like Bennett to an offer sheet where the comp is a 2nd because we are going to be pushed up against the cap.

We are stuck with Neal but need to shed Frolik and Stone for sure and that is not an easy task
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:55 AM   #6507
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rumors/speculation from Friedman's 31 thoughts

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...n-calder-hart/


It is "when" not "if" the Canes trade Ferland as the two sides are far apart.
Pens and Oilers make sense, but other teams will too

Canes have told teams they want to wait before deciding on whether to move McElhinney or Mrazek but that can change if the offer is good enough

Hamilton could be dealt because the Canes are right shot heavy
Contender's need defencemen that can score, Carolina needs scoring forwards. There are matches out there

Pat Maroon is available

Tampa is trying to move Slater Koekoek (*could he be the Left shot d-man the Flames are reportedly looking for*)

The price for Muzzin is high

Teams will be watching how the Jets handle Brossoit who is 1 year away from UFA.

Teams also watching Brandon Tanev who is UFA this summer

Cheveldayoff is shooting down the teams that are asking about Jack Roslovic

Several team's scouts left the WJC early to watch college free agents Cnnor Mackay and Nico Sturm

There is interest in Del Zotto but those parties will wait until closer to the deadline to save cap space
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rumors/speculation from Friedman's 31 thoughts

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...n-calder-hart/


It is "when" not "if" the Canes trade Ferland as the two sides are far apart.
Pens and Oilers make sense, but other teams will too

Canes have told teams they want to wait before deciding on whether to move McElhinney or Mrazek but that can change if the offer is good enough

Hamilton could be dealt because the Canes are right shot heavy
Contender's need defencemen that can score, Carolina needs scoring forwards. There are matches out there

Pat Maroon is available

Tampa is trying to move Slater Koekoek (*could he be the Left shot d-man the Flames are reportedly looking for*)

The price for Muzzin is high

Teams will be watching how the Jets handle Brossoit who is 1 year away from UFA.

Teams also watching Brandon Tanev who is UFA this summer

Cheveldayoff is shooting down the teams that are asking about Jack Roslovic

Several team's scouts left the WJC early to watch college free agents Cnnor Mackay and Nico Sturm

There is interest in Del Zotto but those parties will wait until closer to the deadline to save cap space
Is Nico Sturm son of Marco Sturm?
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Is Nico Sturm son of Marco Sturm?
doesn't appear to be any relation
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I was talking about the off-season. I wouldn’t be shocked if we have to buy him out. I can easily see the Flames losing a guy like Bennett to an offer sheet where the comp is a 2nd because we are going to be pushed up against the cap.

We are stuck with Neal but need to shed Frolik and Stone for sure and that is not an easy task
No one is offer sheeting Sam Bennett IMO. Yeah, the compensation is low, but offer sheets are pretty much reserved for radical changes, like top line help. I don't know why that is, unless it's because of GM relationships. Is a GM willing to go Lowe/Burke feud in order to get a third line winger with some upside?
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:19 AM   #6511
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Who in the hell is Slater Koekoek?
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:21 AM   #6512
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Who in the hell is Slater Koekoek?
2012 10th OA pick of the Lightning.
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rumors/speculation from Friedman's 31 thoughts

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...n-calder-hart/


It is "when" not "if" the Canes trade Ferland as the two sides are far apart.
Pens and Oilers make sense, but other teams will too
Do not want Ferly on the Oilers.
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I’m against acquiring Slater Koekoek. I think TB is trying to sell high on him because he has a very high PDO this season (on ice save % of 95.5% at 5v5). His underlying shot metrics are all bad and they have been consistently bad over a number of seasons.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:30 AM   #6515
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rumors/speculation from Friedman's 31 thoughts

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...n-calder-hart/


It is "when" not "if" the Canes trade Ferland as the two sides are far apart.
Pens and Oilers make sense, but other teams will too

Canes have told teams they want to wait before deciding on whether to move McElhinney or Mrazek but that can change if the offer is good enough

Hamilton could be dealt because the Canes are right shot heavy
Contender's need defencemen that can score, Carolina needs scoring forwards. There are matches out there

What a disaster of a trade for the Canes. Seems like they didn’t have a plan for the players they traded for
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:46 AM   #6516
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Who in the hell is Slater Koekoek?
Top 10 name in the league club.
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Who in the hell is Slater Koekoek?
Looking at the hockey's future talent analysis seems like an offensive D that has seen success in the AHL but not in the NHL. Could be worth a gamble for the right price, maybe a high round draft pick.

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Old 01-09-2019, 11:09 AM   #6518
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I am not sure Koekkoek will be that expensive of an acquisition.

Cernak and Sergachev are above him in the depth chart and they are being rotated out of NHL games.

This is Tampa trying to move him before they waive him IMO. The guy has never lived up to his billing as a top 10 draft pick.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:10 AM   #6519
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If we get him, and he scores, they need to play a Rosco P. Coltrane soundbite
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:25 AM   #6520
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No one is offer sheeting Sam Bennett IMO. Yeah, the compensation is low, but offer sheets are pretty much reserved for radical changes, like top line help. I don't know why that is, unless it's because of GM relationships. Is a GM willing to go Lowe/Burke feud in order to get a third line winger with some upside?

It's been almost 6 years since the last offer sheet (Ryan O'Reilly, lol) and only one hasn't been matched since the new rules (Dustin Penner to Oilers).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_offer_sheets



It seems like NHL GMs have decided that offer sheets just aren't a good way to do business.
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