2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Monahammer]

The flyers probably wouldn't be interested, but I would target couturier pretty hard.
Dube + 2019 1st + 2020 1st? I know its extreme but hes got a great contract too.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by keenan87

To Calgary:
Mark Stone (sign for 7.0 Mil)

To Ottawa:
James Neal
1st 2019
Dillon Dube
Olivier Kylington

Then,

To Calgary:
3rd Round Pick 2019
5th Round Pick 2019

To Random Team:
Michael Frolik

Then,

To Detroit:
Andrew Mangiapane
3rd Round Pick 2019

To Calgary:
Niklas Kronwall

Then,

To Calgary:
Curtis McElhinney

To Carolina:
Mike Smith
5th Round Pick 2019

Then,

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Stone
Bennett-Jankowski-Frolik
Hathaway-Ryan-Czarnik

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Andersson-Stone

Rittich
McElhinney

Flames lose youth but Mark Stone would be a superstar addition to the team. I think it would be worth it. A guy like Mangiapane hasnt done much.

Frolik would be perfect on the third line.. so maybe that can be done in the off-season to re-coup some picks. You can also trade Stone in the off-season to make the cap work comfortably.

Most of these won't happen (probably all) but at least I got my random trade itch out of the way.

The Senators can get tons for Stone at the deadline without taking on a poor long term contract.

Why would Carolina trade their part time starting goaltender, who is playing well for a meagre 5th round pick and take on Smith’s contract? They could likely move him for a 2-3rd round pick without taking on salary.


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[Monahammer]

The flyers probably wouldn't be interested, but I would target couturier pretty hard.
Dube + 2019 1st + 2020 1st? I know its extreme but hes got a great contract too.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

The flyers probably wouldn't be interested, but I would target couturier pretty hard.
Dube + 2019 1st + 2020 1st? I know its extreme but hes got a great contract too.

As much as I covet us holding our 1sts I would be for that but there is a snowballs chance in hell the Flyers would

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by keenan87

To Calgary:
Mark Stone (sign for 7.0 Mil)

To Ottawa:
James Neal
1st 2019
Dillon Dube
Olivier Kylington

He is going to demand a king's ransom. We aren't giving away much:
-Neal on his current contract is negative value
-Our 2019 1st is currently looking like a lower pick. That could change, but it's not quite what Ottawa is looking for
-Dillon Dube is a great prospect but hasn't shown that he's a productive NHLer yet
-Kylington is probably the most valuable piece in it all right now. But like Dube, he's still an unknown and Mark Stone is very much known.

Sorry, I know it's always easy to poke holes in trade proposals. But I just don't see a realistic scenario where we acquire Stone without giving up a more fundamental piece of our team. Which also risks ruining the 'mojo' they seem to be playing with.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

As much as I covet us holding our 1sts I would be for that but there is a snowballs chance in hell the Flyers would

Yeah I agree. Not only is couturier valuable and unlikely to be traded, but philly makes a poor trade partner too.

[Psytic]

If we were dealing Neal I would look at Vegas, Nashville or the Pens or Dallas or some place that he has had chemistry before. They might not attach as big of a negative value to him like other teams. Unfortunately 3 of those teams are in our conference and we are in a battle with them for the playoffs. That leaves the Pens if they even need him at all I dont follow that team but apparently they aren't happy with Matt Murray either.

Something around Neal for Matt Murray maybe. At worst he can backup Rittich at best he's a starter. Trade Smith and a 5th to Arizona to retire for future considerations to clear the cap for a rental or another trade.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Something around Neal for Matt Murray maybe. At worst he can backup Rittich at best he's a starter. Trade Smith and a 5th to Arizona to retire for future considerations to clear the cap for a rental or another trade.

Since returning from injury Murray is 7-0 with two shutouts and a save percentage of 0.962

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

Since returning from injury Murray is 7-0 with two shutouts and a save percentage of 0.962

Guess that's out then. I don't follow the Pens.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by keenan87

To Calgary:
Mark Stone (sign for 7.0 Mil)

Forgetting about everything else. Why do you think he would sign for 7M?

He's been a point-per-game player for two years now. He's elite defensively for a winger and he's 26 years old.

Tavares got 11M after coming off an 84 point season. Kucherov got 9.5M, with Florida tax rates, for 100 points. Benn's career high is under 90 (although an Art Ross) and he's making 9.5M. It's been 5 seasons since Seguin cracked 80 points, and he's about to start his 10M contract. Voracek's making 8.5M for his point-per-game despite signing as an RFA.....James Neal got 6M for 44 points.

Stone is on pace for 90 points. Why do you think he's closer to Neal (even after a good year in Vegas) than the other guys?

He asked for 9M in arbitration last year. He's going to sign closer to 10M than 7M.

[dino7c]

Neal for Murray but it has to happen now to make sense

[AC]

Ha. Friedman was just saying on the HNIC intermission he can see Carolina trading Dougie Hamilton, and that talks are heating up regarding Ferland since the team and agent are far apart.

They also discussed McElhinney and Mrazek as pending free agent goalies they might move.

[dissentowner]

I still say we have enough scoring depth we can stand pat. Ideally if we are upgrading at forward I would rather upgrade 2nd line C but the prices will be too high and we are ok with Backlund there. I still say a 3rd and a minor prospect for a guy like Kronwall at the deadline is good enough for me. Well, that and a solid backup.

[sureLoss]

HNIC:

NHL and NHLPA expected meet this week about CBA and world cup in 2020
in the next 2 weeks the PA might table an offer to the owners and Bettman to extend the CBA
one of the thing in the offer is to alleviate escrow but details are not known on how they plan on doing that

IIHF wants to play on NHL sized rinks at the Olympics and future international events
some believe this is an olive branch directed to the NHL

Canucks considered asking Quinn Hughes to join them after the WJC.
In the end they decided not to because they had made a deal with Hughes not to discuss it until the end of the season.
(*sounds like the Canucks are trying to earn brownie points with Hughes by making this public*)

Canucks to try and re-sign Edler
Edler's AAV might increase but it will be on a short term deal

talks between Duchene and Sens have cooled

Carolina has said they aren't in the posistion to UFAs walk for nothing
Don't believe Ferland or the team are anywhere close to a deal
Both McElhinney and Mrazek are UFA but the Canes aren't ready to make a move there yet. They need someone to play.
Friedman wonders about Dougie Hamilton because the Canes already have 4 RHS D. They have been asked about Hamilton. If the return is a scorer than Friedman thinks they will consider moving Dougie.

McLean points out how players who leave Carolina seem to do better. Lindholm, Hanifin, Skinner, Staal. Even 2 coaches at the ASG are former Canes coaches.

[David Struch]

Are either one of Michael Stone or Juuso Välimäki going on long term injury status?

I was just wondering how that will effect our Cap space.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

HNIC:

NHL and NHLPA expected meet this week about CBA and world cup in 2020
in the next 2 weeks the PA might table an offer to the owners and Bettman to extend the CBA
one of the thing in the offer is to eliviate escrow but details are not known on how they plan on doing that

IIHF wants to play on NHL sized rinks at the Olympics and future international events
some believe this is an olive branch directed to the NHL

Canucks considered asking Quinn Hughes to join them after the WJC.
In the end they decided not to because they had made a deal with Hughes not to discuss it until the end of the season.
(*sounds like the Canucks are trying to earn brownie points with Hughes by making this public*)

Canucks to try and re-sign Edler
Edler's AAV might increase but it will be on a short term deal

talks between Duchene and Sens have cooled

Carolina has said they aren't in the posistion to UFAs walk for nothing
Don't believe Ferland or the team are anywhere close to a deal
Both McElhinney and Mrazek are UFA but the Canes aren't ready to make a move there yet. They need someone to play.
Friedman wonders about Dougie Hamilton because the Canes already have 4 RHS D. They have been asked about Hamilton. If the return is a scorer than Friedman thinks they will consider moving Dougie.

McLean points out how players who leave Carolina seem to do better. Lindholm, Hanifin, Skinner, Staal. Even 2 coaches at the ASG are former Canes coaches.

Duchene would be awesome. Unfortunately the price would be high and I think he would be a pure rental.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

HNIC:

NHL and NHLPA expected meet this week about CBA and world cup in 2020
in the next 2 weeks the PA might table an offer to the owners and Bettman to extend the CBA
one of the thing in the offer is to eliviate escrow but details are not known on how they plan on doing that

IIHF wants to play on NHL sized rinks at the Olympics and future international events
some believe this is an olive branch directed to the NHL

Canucks considered asking Quinn Hughes to join them after the WJC.
In the end they decided not to because they had made a deal with Hughes not to discuss it until the end of the season.
(*sounds like the Canucks are trying to earn brownie points with Hughes by making this public*)

Canucks to try and re-sign Edler
Edler's AAV might increase but it will be on a short term deal

talks between Duchene and Sens have cooled

Carolina has said they aren't in the posistion to UFAs walk for nothing
Don't believe Ferland or the team are anywhere close to a deal
Both McElhinney and Mrazek are UFA but the Canes aren't ready to make a move there yet. They need someone to play.
Friedman wonders about Dougie Hamilton because the Canes already have 4 RHS D. They have been asked about Hamilton. If the return is a scorer than Friedman thinks they will consider moving Dougie.

McLean points out how players who leave Carolina seem to do better. Lindholm, Hanifin, Skinner, Staal. Even 2 coaches at the ASG are former Canes coaches.

McElhinney would be a nice as a backup for Rittich.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by AC

Ha. Friedman was just saying on the HNIC intermission he can see Carolina trading Dougie Hamilton, and that talks are heating up regarding Ferland since the team and agent are far apart.

They also discussed McElhinney and Mrazek as pending free agent goalies they might move.

I know people grumble about bringing ex-Flames back as retreads (and largely I agree), but Ferland as a trade deadline rental for the Flames would be interesting. He could be deployed as a buzzsaw agitator, 3rd or even 4th line, like the Vancouver series a few years ago. Added physicality up front to wear down teams is something we could use, IMO, (in addition to a depth bottom four defenceman).

He wouldn’t be relied on for scoring, but has familiarity with Johnny/Mony if line shakeups are required. And he could potentially provide playoff point production depth (alliteration FTW).

I suppose the asking price could be high, but if he’s going to walk at the end of the year for nothing, maybe Carolina gets desperate. Would other playoff teams be interested in adding him? Maybe only that competition drives up the asking price...





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[Yoho]

Wow Carolina about to double down on a bad trade.

By the trade deadline they will have 3 magic beans.

[The Yen Man]

I don't think it's realistic at all expecting Neal to be traded.

One, I'm pretty sure Treliving's going to exercise a little more patience. He's going to want to see if Neal can turn it up for us in the playoffs first, regardless of how poorly he's doing this season. If he's a dud there as well, then I see Treliving maybe exploring trading him. And that's still a maybe IMO.

And two, who in the league would want him? I'm not willing to give up assets for someone to take him off our hands.

So for better or worse, I'm pretty confident we're stuck with him for now.

Frolik on the other hand, I see gone by either the trade deadline, or during the offseason. I can't foresee Frolik with the Flames by next season.