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Old 01-05-2019, 10:52 AM   #6201
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Agreed.

Bennett is going no where, he’s an important part of the team, on the ice and in the locker room.

If Bennett was a 5th round pick, everyone would be in love with his game.


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I get the impression (and yes this is totally speculative) that Bennett is pissy because he isn't getting the ice time. He doesn't produce at the NHL level the way he wants to and he shifts some of that blame onto the organization and coach due to usage.

Look at his body language at the end of the Detroit game when he got benched. I would not at all be surprised to hear Bennett has asked for a trade / wants out, because he knows he won't be given the opportunity hear to get the kind of minutes to become a star and thus get $$$$$.

Total random ass guessing though, admittedly.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:01 AM   #6202
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Calgary is what? Third overall?

There's tons of room for internal improvement;

Hanifin and Lindholm and Ryan have only played half a year with their new team mates
Andersson and Kylington have played less than that in the NHL
Neal still has a chance, albeit dropping by the day, of getting back to his career SV%
Vilimaki could still be back as with stone (for depth)

Ideally, you'd get a back up goalie... maybe a bottom six winger to supplant Neal's role... messing with team chemistry with the trades some are suggesting seems like a bad idea...

its a road calgary has gone down before with major adds like Stuart and Jokinen and it didn't actually pan out...

i'd much rather prefer smaller deals and keeping picks as opposed to major deals that may or may not help a team already top five in the NHL standings.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:04 AM   #6203
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Getting Simmons will cost some of your best trading chips, starting with your 1st round pick.

That package could be easily beaten by lots of teams with their eyes closed.


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Simmonds is a bit over valued by many. Hes a 30 yr old UFA on the decline that will be nothing but a rental to a contending team, then cash in on a low cap team in the summer. I doubt too many teams offer more than my original post, but we will see.
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Old 01-05-2019, 12:32 PM   #6204
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I get the impression (and yes this is totally speculative) that Bennett is pissy because he isn't getting the ice time. He doesn't produce at the NHL level the way he wants to and he shifts some of that blame onto the organization and coach due to usage.

Look at his body language at the end of the Detroit game when he got benched. I would not at all be surprised to hear Bennett has asked for a trade / wants out, because he knows he won't be given the opportunity hear to get the kind of minutes to become a star and thus get $$$$$.

Total random ass guessing though, admittedly.
I just always assumed he was just a grumpy person, at least when he was playing hockey. He’s always looked pissy to me. Just guessing too though.

But I think back to that unreal goal he scored, then they show Jankowski on the bench telling Bennett “I was wide open back door” and laughing. Bennett doesn’t look too amused haha.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:26 PM   #6205
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Simmonds is a bit over valued by many. Hes a 30 yr old UFA on the decline that will be nothing but a rental to a contending team, then cash in on a low cap team in the summer. I doubt too many teams offer more than my original post, but we will see.
He's pretty overrated for sure. A nice to have player but not a must have player.
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Neal still has a chance, albeit dropping by the day, of getting back to his career SV%
Maybe he can play backup for us then, he sure as hell is not doing anything as a forward.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:21 PM   #6207
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Simmonds was pretty invisible tonight. If we’re going to trade a 1st, I’d like to pick up a legitimate game breaker who can create plays out of nothing. If the team is #1 in the west by the TDL, I’d absolutely pull the trigger. We don’t have a lot of picks to begin with, but a #27-#31 pick doesn’t excite me either.

How often are we ever in this situation? Go all in and go for broke.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:39 PM   #6208
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Im not moving our 1st unless we’re getting a player like Duchene or Ma. Stone in return.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:43 PM   #6209
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Yeah I dont want the 1st moved for an aging rental.

Package it up for another young(ish) core piece, that's fine. Not for a rental though.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:45 PM   #6210
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Yeah I dont want the 1st moved for an aging rental.

Package it up for another young(ish) core piece, that's fine. Not for a rental though.


Only way I’m cool with trading a 1st, or hell - multiple 1st in a different trades - is if we get pieces that are here for years.

Brayden Schenn? Yup, I’d include a 1st.

Robin Lehner with an extension +? Yup. I’d include a 1st
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:47 PM   #6211
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To think that Lehner went unsigned as long as he did this past summer and was had for a little over a million.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:51 PM   #6212
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I just don't see Treliving trading our 1st round pick by the deadline this year.

Rittich is becoming a legitimate starter goalie and no backup is ever worth a first-rounder, unless your starter is hurt. Smith is still serviceable as a back-up. I don't even think he's gonna go after the big name goalies, like Bobrovsky or Varlamov anymore, since BSD is playing so well.

Who else could be worth a 1st rounder that we need and can afford?
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:55 PM   #6213
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To think that Lehner went unsigned as long as he did this past summer and was had for a little over a million.
Lehner and Smith tandem would have been the most aggressive goaltending duo in the league by a mile!
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:01 PM   #6214
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That brings up a good point. Had the Flames grabbed Lehner it would be as Smith's backup and we wouldn't have seen Rittich until much later if at all this year.

But now, at this point in the season an overpay could be worth it.
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:12 PM   #6215
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What about lehner and one of brock Nelson or anders lee for our first and frolik?
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:13 PM   #6216
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Problem there is the Islanders are very much in it so if they are selling it will be late in the game (right at TDL) if at all

I didn't realize the Islanders were still that close.
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:23 PM   #6217
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Islanders would be stupid to be sellers. Their fan base has suffered enough. They need to try and have a playoff run
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:47 PM   #6218
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Islanders would be stupid to be sellers. Their fan base has suffered enough. They need to try and have a playoff run
If islanders won all their games in hand they would be tied with Calgary

Highly doubt they are sellers
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Old 01-05-2019, 04:10 PM   #6219
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To Calgary:
Mark Stone (sign for 7.0 Mil)

To Ottawa:
James Neal
1st 2019
Dillon Dube
Olivier Kylington

Then,

To Calgary:
3rd Round Pick 2019
5th Round Pick 2019

To Random Team:
Michael Frolik

Then,

To Detroit:
Andrew Mangiapane
3rd Round Pick 2019

To Calgary:
Niklas Kronwall

Then,

To Calgary:
Curtis McElhinney

To Carolina:
Mike Smith
5th Round Pick 2019

Then,

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Stone
Bennett-Jankowski-Frolik
Hathaway-Ryan-Czarnik

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Andersson-Stone

Rittich
McElhinney

Flames lose youth but Mark Stone would be a superstar addition to the team. I think it would be worth it. A guy like Mangiapane hasnt done much.

Frolik would be perfect on the third line.. so maybe that can be done in the off-season to re-coup some picks. You can also trade Stone in the off-season to make the cap work comfortably.

Most of these won't happen (probably all) but at least I got my random trade itch out of the way.

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Old 01-05-2019, 04:18 PM   #6220
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I just don't see Treliving trading our 1st round pick by the deadline this year.

Rittich is becoming a legitimate starter goalie and no backup is ever worth a first-rounder, unless your starter is hurt. Smith is still serviceable as a back-up. I don't even think he's gonna go after the big name goalies, like Bobrovsky or Varlamov anymore, since BSD is playing so well.

Who else could be worth a 1st rounder that we need and can afford?
We don't need to trade a 1st, BT is a wizard and will get us a solid backup for a song.
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