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				 Diet Alcohol Corporation of the Americas, describes Pace as  legal on its website. It describes the drink as a brand-new "alcohol  alternative" that packs a similar buzz to booze — with zero alcohol,  calories or hangover.The company describes the active ingredient  in Pace, MEAI, as a "new synthetic" that delivers "a mild inebriation  along with a feeling of contentedness that curbs overconsumption and  excessive drinking."
			
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...nada-1.4933533
Never heard of this before, sounds kinda sketchy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-08-2018, 10:18 AM
			
			
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			12-08-2018, 10:24 AM
			
			
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			12-08-2018, 10:24 AM
			
			
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			LOL synthehol was the first that came to mind too
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-08-2018, 10:51 AM
			
			
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			Damn those are expensive, you can buy it in powder form from here, I believe this is the same stuff. 
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			12-08-2018, 10:59 AM
			
			
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			This looks like a derivative of methoxy. I had to babysit a friend once who took methoxy. It was like ecstacy on steroids. It messes with your seretonin big time. 
 
Modern drug manufacturers are constantly slightly changing the chemical formulas of drugs to get around laws. These synthetic designer drugs tend to be very powerful. No way I'd just substitute them for beer.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-08-2018, 11:07 AM
			
			
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			Yeah, all I can say is don't be surprise if you buy something off a site like Legalchem and you end up sitting in front of your mirror at 2:00 in the morning ripping your face off. 
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				Formal name: 2,3-dihydro-5-methoxy-1H-Inden-2-amine, monohydrochloride 
 CAS: 81593-54-6 
 
 
 The reagent offered is in the form of a powder with 95% purity. This  product is intended only for laboratory and scientific research. The  physiological and toxicological properties of this reagent are not  known. 
 
The product is absolutely unsuitable for human consumption and may have adverse effects on health and life. 
			
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			12-08-2018, 11:22 AM
			
			
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			Yeah, all research chems have to say that, and many for good reason. Although this compound sounds interesting, but it would be nice to have FDA and some longer-term research before I would consider it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-08-2018, 02:18 PM
			
			
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			Whatever happened to simple purple drank? Cough syrup, soda and some jolly ranchers is all I've ever needed.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-08-2018, 03:00 PM
			
			
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			12-08-2018, 03:36 PM
			
			
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			It's an interesting angle. I mean, yes, it's obviously just a new synthetic drug, these pop up all the time, but for a company to openly try to build a legitimate business around it, that's new and could end up being a game changer. 
 
Ultimately there's no real reason why alcohol gets such a special treatment, out of all possible recreational drugs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-08-2018, 04:19 PM
			
			
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			The benefit of alcohol is that we know the side effects and long term damage.  Not that they are good, but at least they are understood.  Who know what this man made chemical could do long term.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			12-08-2018, 04:41 PM
			
			
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			Hard to imagine it could do worse damage than alcohol does long term, but I get where you are coming from. 
 
I just think we shouldn't be so dismissive of these research chemicals if we are ever to get ST Synthenol that is!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-08-2018, 06:56 PM
			
			
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			Not trying to be dismissive, but if you are going to sell a chemical product for ingestion, I'd like some research done first.  This is a bit of the cart before the horse.  I hear gasoline can give you a good buzz, but I'm not going to do that, either.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-08-2018, 06:59 PM
			
			
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			I actually have a couple small bottlea of Pace sitting in my liquor cabinet. Been trying to find a good time to try it out but as you can imagine I'm a bit apprehensive.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-08-2018, 07:01 PM
			
			
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			As a related aside, there are some absolutely fascinating things going on with nootropics in 2018.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-08-2018, 07:07 PM
			
			
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				I actually have a couple small bottlea of Pace sitting in my liquor cabinet. Been trying to find a good time to try it out but as you can imagine I'm a bit apprehensive. 
			
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			12-08-2018, 07:11 PM
			
			
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			Has anyone said water yet? 
 
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			12-08-2018, 08:56 PM
			
			
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				Not trying to be dismissive, but if you are going to sell a chemical product for ingestion, I'd like some research done first.  This is a bit of the cart before the horse.  I hear gasoline can give you a good buzz, but I'm not going to do that, either. 
			
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This is a drug that messes with your seretonin, and they are trying to market it as safe for regular use.
 
I consider myself very libertarian when it comes to drug use, but people shouldn't be purposely misinformed about risks.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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I'm interested. Like what?? 
 
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