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Old 12-05-2018, 12:37 PM   #81
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As noted, clearly interference. Basically the same hit as Wilson put on Seney.

The thing that annoys the absolute #### out of me is the colour guy describing it as a "blindside hit". I think Holtby said the same thing. That is no longer a rule. It's not a relevant concept. It hasn't been for years.
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:54 PM   #82
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3 hits. Predatory and premeditated? 20 games?

I guess the question is that if it wasn't Wilson on the receiving end, and say Backstrom, would the fan reaction be different? Of course.

I guess the thought is that even though Wilson was in need of some tough love like this, it doesn't get Reaves off the hook. His having to police the league, because the league can't police itself, puts everyone in an uncomfortable situation as what to do next.

I say he gets a call and a fine.
A fine for what? The hit was a bit late but it was a clean hit. If you want to watch no contact hockey go find a ringette game. I am seriously tired of people whining about every hit. The kind of goonery Wilson is known for is fine to get out of the game but it is and will be a contact sport, get over it.
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Old 12-05-2018, 02:28 PM   #83
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You’re right guys. Not having Reaves or a guy who can compete with Lucic or Kassian is the reason why we are 1st in the Pacific while Vegas and the Oilers are decidedly not.

Reaaaaally holding us back.
lol no kidding.

Not to mention that not playing into the Oilers goonery was exactly what won us the last BoA. Guys like Tkachuk and Backlund getting under McDavids skin causing them to move Lucic to that line and neutering him entirely.

Guys really want Reaves on the ice in that situation to 'defuse' Lucic? Sounds great but at the same time you're also putting him out there with McDavid on the ice. Not so sure I like that matchup
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Man, this is a classless take. You sound like an Oilers fan talking about Tkachuk.
And Tom Wilson is a classless player. Don't compare me to an oiler fan because I think Tom Wilson deserves everything he has coming to him. A guy whose main goal is to hurt other players deserves to get hurt back.
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:33 PM   #87
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celebrating anyone getting knocked out cold is bush league to me. Wilson will be out for a while. And do not, any of you, tell me you would not want Wilson on the Flames. That interference hit will not get any more discipline, but it was calculated and dirty (esp. if you watched the whole game. It is clear Reaves was on this mission going in.)
I do not want Wilson on the Flames.
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Pretty blatant interference on the second hit.

No reason to celebrate a guy banging his head off the ice, I don't care who it is.
Don’t see anyone mentioning or celebrating him hitting his head
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I love the first hit. Nice solid hockey play. but the second hit is disgusting, just straight interference and leads with the elbow.

Reeves is just as dirty as Wilson.
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Reeves gets a standing ovation from me. I don't recall Reeves using hulking size to blindside smaller players as Tom Wilson has done. He is not a dirty player.

Wilson got caught in the crosshairs, and he has hit way too many players much smaller than him like Reeves just did to him.

That's the way the game goes buddy; a taste of your own medicine.
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I love the first hit. Nice solid hockey play. but the second hit is disgusting, just straight interference and leads with the elbow.

Reeves is just as dirty as Wilson.
Well if the NHL doesn’t want to properly police Wilson’s dirt, the players will do it themselves.
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And Tom Wilson is a classless player. Don't compare me to an oiler fan because I think Tom Wilson deserves everything he has coming to him. A guy whose main goal is to hurt other players deserves to get hurt back.


I can think of a lot more classless players this league has had than Tom Wilson.

Still doesn’t mean you should cheer for him injuring his brain. You do you man.
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Don’t see anyone mentioning or celebrating him hitting his head


One poster literally said someone needs to do it again because he was able to get up off the ice.

Poor taste.
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I can think of a lot more classless players this league has had than Tom Wilson.

Still doesn’t mean you should cheer for him injuring his brain. You do you man.
I never said anything about wanting him to suffer long-term effects from this, but the longer he isn't on the ice trying to hurt people, the better for the entire league.
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Looks like Reeves gives him a bit of a slewfoot after the first hit too.
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If it were anyone else, I would feel bad. For Wilson I don’t. That’s the exact game he plays. To me, feeling bad for Wilson getting hit like that would be like feeling bad for Matt Cooke for getting hurt on a hit. Play dangerous games, win dangerous prizes.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:50 PM   #97
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If it were anyone else, I would feel bad. For Wilson I don’t. That’s the exact game he plays. To me, feeling bad for Wilson getting hit like that would be like feeling bad for Matt Cooke for getting hurt on a hit. Play dangerous games, win dangerous prizes.
Once you’re known for doing it, players expect it. Like Reaves said post game he thought Wilson took a look and he knows he’s going to get hit by him. So he gives it maximum effort. If that was Backlund, Reaves isn’t expecting contact and doesn’t make that play.

Even if your argument is that Reaves was hunting him all game. Of course he was. Based on the last year there is about a 1/10 chance that game Wilson takes out a Vegas player with a hard shot. Reaves isn’t going to let that happen, and makes himself the target, and the deterrent, all game.
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Ok. This thread just illustrates to me that I don’t understand people.

Reaves hit Wilson hard, shoulder to shoulder. Wilson didn’t see it as he was admiring his pass. (And slow motion replays don’t help. Things happen faster in real time than in slo mo, it’s not like he was admiring his pass for ages).
His helmet pops off, but not because it was the primary point of contact.
Was the hit late? Perhaps you could argue that, but frankly it is debatable. It was close but not egregious.

I think you could also argue that Reaves took a significant penalty because Wilson wasn’t paying attention and Reaves’s hit was effective.

Nothing that Reaves did is in the same ballpark as this:



And they shouldn’t be represented in this situation as guys who “play the same game”, or that Wilson “lives by the sword and dies by the sword”, in this world of bloody false equivalency
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There is no protagonist in this story.

Isn’t the guy with a history of injuring guys with hits they don’t expect, who is on the receiving end of just such a hit that he doesn’t see coming, in really the only event in this story, qualified as a protagonist?

A protagonist is just a main character
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Isn’t the guy with a history of injuring guys with hits they don’t expect, who is on the receiving end of just such a hit that he doesn’t see coming, in really the only event in this story, qualified as a protagonist?

A protagonist is just a main character
A protagonist is a hero
An antagonist is a villain

At least that's what I remember, school was a long time ago though.
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