12-01-2018, 01:41 PM
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#641
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Hossa for Heatley was the biggest one I can remember. Both were RFAs at the time.
Don't think a sign and trade happens. The cap complications of a RFA signing this late make it unlikely.
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Agreed. There is no rush for a sign and trade. Sign now and trade at the deadline has essentially the same impact on the Leafs while having far more bidders. They only need cap space next year.
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12-01-2018, 01:43 PM
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#642
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkflames
Agreed. There is no rush for a sign and trade. Sign now and trade at the deadline has essentially the same impact on the Leafs while having far more bidders. They only need cap space next year.
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Unless Nylander doesn't want to play a single game for the Leafs and would rather be a Free Agent in the off-season if he doesn't get traded. He will be a FA right?
Edit - nevermind he still remains a RFA. Kinda lame imo. He should be UFA.
Last edited by keenan87; 12-01-2018 at 01:45 PM.
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12-01-2018, 01:46 PM
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#643
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Unless Nylander doesn't want to play a single game for the Leafs and would rather be a Free Agent in the off-season if he doesn't get traded. He will be a FA right?
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He will still be Leafs property.
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12-01-2018, 01:47 PM
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#644
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Edit - nevermind he still remains a RFA. Kinda lame imo. He should be UFA.
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That is not lame, all the power would always be with the player then. It would be financial chaos. Give me a ridiculous amount of money or I will sit out the season and then sign with whomever.
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12-01-2018, 01:48 PM
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#645
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First Line Centre
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Let the kid sit out. About time one of these entitled ####s gets strong armed.
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12-01-2018, 01:53 PM
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#646
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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12-01-2018, 01:54 PM
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#647
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Gundo
Let the kid sit out. About time one of these entitled ####s gets strong armed.
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Entitled? Because he feels he deserves to receive appropriate compensation for the caliber of player he is?
Okay
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12-01-2018, 01:56 PM
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#648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
That is not lame, all the power would always be with the player then. It would be financial chaos. Give me a ridiculous amount of money or I will sit out the season and then sign with whomever.
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Or in this case.. if the team lowballs the player, then there is no option for the player but to accept. Play for $1 mil a year or sit out for the next 2 years. He doesn't even get Arbitration rights next year.
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12-01-2018, 01:58 PM
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#649
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Entitled? Because he feels he deserves to receive appropriate compensation for the caliber of player he is?
Okay
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Because 7mil per season up from 875K is such a slap in the face... 
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12-01-2018, 01:58 PM
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#650
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Entitled? Because he feels he deserves to receive appropriate compensation for the caliber of player he is?
Okay
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That's just it, his ask is quite a bit above what his peers are getting. He's had 2 full years with 60 points per year. Nik Ehelrs is a great comparable in age/experience/production, and he signed a long-term deal worth $6 million per year. Nylander is asking far too much for what he is.
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12-01-2018, 02:00 PM
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#651
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by theslymonkey
Because 7mil per season up from 875K is such a slap in the face... |
Why take less than you think you're worth in any profession, if you had the means to try and get it? Seems like a silly argument.
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12-01-2018, 02:02 PM
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#652
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Why take less than you think you're worth in any profession, if you had the means to try and get it? Seems like a silly argument.
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Fine I'll say it.
He is not worth a penny over $6 million. He is also the only person who thinks he is worth what he is asking. You can use similar NHL players as a comparable.
Good enough?
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12-01-2018, 02:05 PM
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#653
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Fine I'll say it.
He is not worth a penny over $6 million. He is also the only person who thinks he is worth what he is asking. You can use similar NHL players as a comparable.
Good enough?
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DING DING DING!!!
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12-01-2018, 02:05 PM
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#654
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Lifetime Suspension
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I respect what Nylander is doing. Stop letting these disgustingly greedy owners exploit athlete after athlete. But then we label them as cancers when they stand up for themselves
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12-01-2018, 02:07 PM
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#655
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
I respect what Nylander is doing. Stop letting these disgustingly greedy owners exploit athlete after athlete. But then we label them as cancers when they stand up for themselves
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And when he eventually signs for Pastrnak/Gaudreau money, we say good job?
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12-01-2018, 02:08 PM
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#656
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NorthVan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Fine I'll say it.
He is not worth a penny over $6 million. He is also the only person who thinks he is worth what he is asking. You can use similar NHL players as a comparable.
Good enough?
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Yes, but that does not necessarily make him entitled, delusional maybe.
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12-01-2018, 02:08 PM
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#657
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Fine I'll say it.
He is not worth a penny over $6 million. He is also the only person who thinks he is worth what he is asking. You can use similar NHL players as a comparable.
Good enough?
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From his point of view his stats are comparable to Marner and we all know Marner's going to get $8+ million. I can see why he's not willing to accept substantially lower than what Marner's going to get. He doesn't owe the Leafs any discount because he knows they paid for Tavares and they are going to pay for Marner and Matthews. I don't blame him at all for what he's doing here.
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12-01-2018, 02:14 PM
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#658
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Fine I'll say it.
He is not worth a penny over $6 million. He is also the only person who thinks he is worth what he is asking. You can use similar NHL players as a comparable.
Good enough?
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I'm in the same opinion that he's not worth the amount he's asking for but the bolded part is what we simply don't know. There will always be GMs who are desperate and would offer a lot for a guy like that. I'd think there would be a handful of GMs who would do $7M+ if they want him to be their next 1st line player on a shallow team. On the Leafs, it's not a good fit with that salary given what they have to do at seasons end. Anyway, we can say all we want here, but ultimately the market decides what a player is going to be paid.
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12-01-2018, 02:15 PM
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#659
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Nylander is doing nothing wrong. He deserves to get paid.
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12-01-2018, 02:16 PM
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#660
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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So which team is going to sign him to an offer sheet for the 300k over what the Leafs are offering? 44 minutes to go.
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