[PGT] Stars 4 Flames 3 OT loss

[CofR]

Highlight of the game was Willie Joosen playing the Stamps fight song on the organ in the 1st

Hit Em Again Ye Men Of Calgary!!! We’ll win on Friday

[JD]

Yeah that game looked like the Flames were out partying with the Stamps the past couple days. We were getting beat to almost every loose puck and the Stars top line were having a good game. It speaks volumes about this team that they were able to nearly win that game despite being off.

Hopefully they bring their lunchpails for the next one.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

If Bennett scores that after tkachuk glides through the crease we all love it.

Lol. Bennett wouldn’t have scored there.

[PlayfulGenius]

It seems the Flames have played well of late, yet they’re a pedestrian 5-4-1 in their last 10.

I’m still not sure what this team is... 1st in the Pacific with game(s) in hand in great news, though

[Maritime Q-Scout]

If I were Rittich I'd be pissed that was called a goal.

That said, I didn't see overtime. I knew the outcome before watching the highlights and already read most of this thread.

Dallas' overtime winner was a good goal.

Rittich had contact with his back skate. He then got up, got into position, and was set.

I don't know if it was intentional but it seems Segin actually waits for Rittich to be set before shooting.

If that situation was flipped and it was called back against the Flames, I'd be breathing fire.

If Segin shot right away, no goal. But, Rittich had time and was set, then was beat cleanly.

Would his angles have been different if he wasn't bumped? Maybe? But we can't use goaltending positioning as a measure. Different goalies play angles differently. Perhaps, Rittich would have been in the exact same place and be beat again.

Hell Calgary's 2nd and 3rd goals would have been stopped if Dallas' goalie had juuuuuust a bit better of an angle.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

So much moaning over the OT goal call. While Benn did touch his back skate (just barely) it really didn't have any effect on whether Rittich could play his position. He overcommitted to that side and still had plenty of time to get back in position to make a save. But let's get real here, Seguin right in front of the net with plenty of time is going to bury that puck 10 times out of 10 times. It's just the way things go.

The Flames were just sloppy at times in this one and lacked a killer instinct. The Stars battled hard despite their lack of talent and did everything they could to give Khudobin a chance to make saves by blocking lots of shots and generally throwing off the attack of the Flames. It worked for the most part, as the Flames just didn't have that extra gear to overcome the defensive structure of the Stars, probably taking them too lightly, but also probably being a little rusty with so much time off.

It's a learning experience for a team with this much talent to learn how to bear down and win these winnable games when they aren't playing their best. They almost did it tonight, but some sloppy d-zone play near the end cost them the 2nd point.

Monahan was extremely passive offensively tonight. I thought Neal had a couple of nice chances in close, but he's just not burying chances the way he's done before. I don't know what's off, but he's a guy that makes you pay if he gets a shot in close. That's just not happening and I have no idea why.

[Husky]

I am fine with the ref call. End of the day seguin should never have been open infront of the net like that.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Reminded me of the Vegas game.

Which is a little concerning as that's two games in the last three where they didn't have as much jump and effort as we have been accustomed to this season. It's hard to say if they were any good on Sunday because the Coyotes kind of just forfeited that game. Maybe those high scoring recent games kind of went to their head that they don't need to outwork opponents. Kind of concerning with the race for the top 3 spots in the division getting a little tight as 1.5 or 2 weeks of poor play like this and they could be looking at the playoffs from the outside.

[Toonage]

First game back after a (small) road trip I guess.

I expect they'll be much better on Friday. The whip will be out at practice today.

As for Friday, it seems the Flames have 3 lines that are clicking (last game maybe not so much, but overall) so it will be interesting to see if Frolik-Ryan-Neal can keep up the solid work they did before Frolik went down

[Lanny_McDonald]

Flames got away with a point they probably didn't deserve. Dallas was the better team last night, but Calgary was still in a position to win. A little disappointed they couldn't pull this one off. Some usual comments that seem to come out after every game.

I don't get the Derek Ryan love from Peters. The guy generates nothing out there, yet he is given plenty of ice time and prime PP time. Yeah, he can win a faceoff, but does that mean he should be given all the opportunity in the world like he's getting? He has to start generating something. He's a drag on the team and has yet to show any chemistry with anyone.

Sam Bennett needs to start scoring. Outside of earning a PP assist off a Ryan PP goal, and Ryan banking a shot in off of Bennett's pants, Sam remains stone cold. I get that he's hustling and bumping, but he needs to start generating scoring opportunities and finishing.

Jankowski needs more ice time. He's passed both Ryan and Bennett in scoring, and while getting no PP time and 4-5 minutes less time per game. He's 6th on the team in P/60 and should not be 20th in average ice time on the team when he's generating scoring opportunities consistently. Imagine what he could do playing with better talent than Hathaway and Dube. Time to give him opportunity with better players.

[redforever]

We had 3 straight PP in the first period and never scored once. That came back to bite us.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by New Era

Flames got away with a point they probably didn't deserve. Dallas was the better team last night, but Calgary was still in a position to win. A little disappointed they couldn't pull this one off. Some usual comments that seem to come out after every game.

I don't get the Derek Ryan love from Peters. The guy generates nothing out there, yet he is given plenty of ice time and prime PP time. Yeah, he can win a faceoff, but does that mean he should be given all the opportunity in the world like he's getting? He has to start generating something. He's a drag on the team and has yet to show any chemistry with anyone.

Sam Bennett needs to start scoring. Outside of earning a PP assist off a Ryan PP goal, and Ryan banking a shot in off of Bennett's pants, Sam remains stone cold. I get that he's hustling and bumping, but he needs to start generating scoring opportunities and finishing.

Jankowski needs more ice time. He's passed both Ryan and Bennett in scoring, and while getting no PP time and 4-5 minutes less time per game. He's 6th on the team in P/60 and should not be 20th in average ice time on the team when he's generating scoring opportunities consistently. Imagine what he could do playing with better talent than Hathaway and Dube. Time to give him opportunity with better players.

Disagree he is a drag on the team as he is pretty solid defensively and does a lot of the little things that help the squad.

I do agree he is getting to much ice time however. I just dont get the use of him on the PP. I would be just fine with giving Jankowski those PP minutes for sure.

And on Bennett....yup. He has to produce more if he is going to stay on that 2nd line.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by ToraToraTora

Ummm...did he pitch his stick at the refs?

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He will be hearing from the league for that one...no doubt.

A bit lighter in the wallet is my guess.

[Split98]

Poopy game they didn't deserve to win. We always look at how the good teams find a way to get themselves back into a poor showing, and we saw that here.

Good game from Rittich, and excited to see this goalie given an opportunity to get back into the groove after a tough loss for him. Can't ask much more of Rittich tn, as his team lost it infront of him - but his focus the next game is what makes a starter. Unfortunately, I don't think we see him until 12/04 against Columbus.

I know I'd be pissed if I was Rittich as well, but I'm glad for hockey that that goal is called. Goalies should be able to fight through some adversity, and I fear that touch would have opened up too much of a precedent in weak calls. Problem is: that precedent has been set in the NHL already. Consistency still lacks, but this was the call I'd like them to start consistently making. Unfortunately, Dave and the Flames are on the wrong side of this one.

[tkflames]

I think we have been spoiled this year with the 3rd period comebacks including last night. It is not a reasonable expectation for a team to come out with points when trailing after 2. The team played like dog pooh for two periods. This was not unexpected (longer break, other team coming off back to back loss, first game back after road trip), regardless of what the excuse is.

I love Peters' presser last night. No excuses, stated we played worse than what we are capable of and that we got away from the details. We showed we could dominate Dallas but did not sustain.

Also, give the opposotin some credit. The flames directed almost 60 shots at the net and almost half were blocked. We did not play with that level of desperation.

[EVERLAST]

I don't know how we lose this game. Dallas goalie was kicking out big fat juicy rebounds to which we didn't even capitalize.
How does this happen all of the time?
That was an easy game to win when you're playing against the goalie giving up that many f****** rebounds.

I know we're not supposed to win them all but that should have been a win.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Eric Francis @EricFrancis
A furious Rittich on the ruling there was no goalie interference on the winning goal. “Maybe next time I will lie on the ice for half an hour.”

Smith must be a bad mentor if Rittich hasn't learned anything from him about flopping.
Smith could teach a masters class.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Disagree he is a drag on the team as he is pretty solid defensively and does a lot of the little things that help the squad.

I do agree he is getting to much ice time however. I just dont get the use of him on the PP. I would be just fine with giving Jankowski those PP minutes for sure.

And on Bennett....yup. He has to produce more if he is going to stay on that 2nd line.

Ryan should remain a 4th line shutdown center and potentially your C that comes on to win an important RHS draw in the offensive zone from time to time. He's pretty solid at that aspect of the game, but outside of that I haven't seen a guy fall down, get knocked off the puck or just plain bobble the puck this bad in years.

We all sit here at slam James Neal's production to date, and for the most part I think we're all in agreement that he hasn't produced at a pace we all kind of expected.. however Derek Ryan as your C isn't going to produce chances for you at any significant pace, its just not possible.

Derek should be no where near the 2nd unit PP, he shouldn't even be on the 3rd line and that's no fault of his as Peter's is giving him that option but as others have said, he's done nothing to show he deserves all this playing time. That's before we talk about guys like Janko and Dube playing significantly better night in and night out generating more offensive opportunities and yet still getting minimal shifts throughout the game.

If I had my choice, these are my lines going into Friday's game:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Bennett - Neal
Dube - Backlund - Jankowski
Czarnik - Ryan - Hathaway

Or flipping your top 6 to:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Neal
Tkachuk - Monahan - Bennett


Neal needs someone to go in and dig pucks out of corners, we're over 20 games into the season and we've yet to utilize him at the top of the right circle setup as a 1 timer trigger man similar to what you see on the opposite side for guys like Ovechkin, Stamkos, Laine etc. Neal's reputation as a sniper was very evident going into this season, and yea he's fighting it a bit, but go and look where he's playing on that 2nd line PP - He's either behind the net, or just in front in the "garbageman land" and were not using him where he's been effective for the last 10+ years.

Bad game overall last night, but I'm honestly to the point where GG's Brouwerplay infatuation is becoming evident in the Peter's RyanPP to which someone warned us about going into this season. It has to stop, the pucks just die on his stick constantly.

[stone hands]

As gross as it is to say, battling for the save was the wrong choice since he was punished for it. he probably should have just flopped and drawn a penalty. Rookie mistake that he probably won't make next time

[Wastedyouth]

Can't win every game, even the ones you deserve to!

Learn and move on!