Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

The worst part is that the grease are almost certainly going to make the playoffs.

LA, Anaheim, Vancouver, and Vegas are all complete trash.

It's going to be a suck-off between the grease and the yotes for the 3rd divisional spot. Arizona isn't complete garbage like the oilers are but they've never had meaningful games with their core, and will probably falter down the stretch.

I'll be cheering for Arizona all year.

You may have missed it but the Ducks are in 3rd.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Anaheim is at a 44.2 ES CF% right now. Just as we are seeing Vancouver fall back to earth, I expect the same thing to happen to the Ducks.

For reference, the Flames finished 2014-2015 with a 45.0 ES CF% which is the lowest I've seen a team make the playoffs with.

CF% doesn't determine who makes the playoffs.

Anaheim is easily the 3rd best team in the division. They have a great goalie, are good defensively, and have loads of experience. Once healthy, they will leave ARI and EDM in their dust.

[Hockey Fan #751]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

The Ducks have the same percentage of points (23 in 23) as the Oilers (21 in 21) despite having struggled with injuries.

Getzlaf has missed 5 games, Fowler has missed the last 4, Kase has missed most of the season, as has Eaves (he might just be done at this point).Kesler missed some games, as did Silfverberg. Now Lindholm is hurt.

And of course Perry hasn't played yet.

Might be a team that has a bad record up until March but then comes in firing on all cylinders if everyone gets healthy including Perry. Especially if Perry's recent drop off in play was due to his MCL and it's fixed up.

No thanks. I don't want any part of the Ducks in the first round. I'd take any other team our division, including the Sharks.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

CF% doesn't determine who makes the playoffs.

Anaheim is easily the 3rd best team in the division. They have a great goalie, are good defensively, and have loads of experience. Once healthy, they will leave ARI and EDM in their dust.

I never said CF% determines who makes the playoffs so why try to be rude like that? Why post like this? What is your problem?

Fact is if Anaheim makes the playoffs with their current pace, they would set a new low for ES CF% to make the playoffs with. Right, teams make the playoffs based off points, but the best predictor until we actually see the games played is ES CF%.

Don't extrapolate for things I haven't said.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I never said CF% determines who makes the playoffs so why try to be rude like that? Why post like this? What is your problem?

Fact is if Anaheim makes the playoffs with their current pace, they would set a new low for ES CF% to make the playoffs with. Right, teams make the playoffs based off points, but the best predictor until we actually see the games played is ES CF%.

Don't extrapolate for things I haven't said.

I wasn't being rude. The entire post I quoted discussed CF%. I replied to that, then listed reasons why I think ANA will make the playoffs.

Maybe you're being a bit sensitive here?

[slybomb]

Originally Posted by troutman

Why is Ken so openly talking about his strategies?

Old people always love to talk about stuff.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Never count out the Ducks. They will make the playoffs as they always start slow only to have one of the best records in the league in the 2nd half of the season.

Never ever count out the Ducks. I've been waiting for their decline for 5+ years now, only to watch them win the division each time, even after a poor first half. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them come roaring back and snatch it away from Calgary

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

The Ducks have the same percentage of points (23 in 23) as the Oilers (21 in 21) despite having struggled with injuries.

Getzlaf has missed 5 games, Fowler has missed the last 4, Kase has missed most of the season, as has Eaves (he might just be done at this point).Kesler missed some games, as did Silfverberg. Now Lindholm is hurt.

And of course Perry hasn't played yet.

Might be a team that has a bad record up until March but then comes in firing on all cylinders if everyone gets healthy including Perry. Especially if Perry's recent drop off in play was due to his MCL and it's fixed up.

This is mainly due to their goalie playing out of his mind rather than their team depth. They are outplayed most nights.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by slybomb

Old people always love to talk about stuff.

We do not!

But while we're on the subject, that reminds me of a story…

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by slybomb

Old people always love to talk about stuff.

[flamesforcup]

Lets say its the last game of the season we have against the Oil and we are locked in at #2 in the division. Assume they need to win the last game to get #3 or else we get Anaheim. Would u rather A: Lose the game and get to beat the Oilers over a full series (which will make the summer glorious) or B: Beat them and end their season right there?

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

Lets say its the last game of the season we have against the Oil and we are locked in at #2 in the division. Assume they need to win the last game to get #3 or else we get Anaheim. Would u rather A: Lose the game and get to beat the Oilers over a full series (which will make the summer glorious) or B: Beat them and end their season right there?

Not even a question, always B. Anything can happen in the playoffs, if you have the chance to eliminate Edmonton in one game you do it without hesitation

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

Lets say its the last game of the season we have against the Oil and we are locked in at #2 in the division. Assume they need to win the last game to get #3 or else we get Anaheim. Would u rather A: Lose the game and get to beat the Oilers over a full series (which will make the summer glorious) or B: Beat them and end their season right there?

End their season right there... why is this even a question? Next you'll want us to be nice to rival fans in a "No Good" thread.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

Lets say its the last game of the season we have against the Oil and we are locked in at #2 in the division. Assume they need to win the last game to get #3 or else we get Anaheim. Would u rather A: Lose the game and get to beat the Oilers over a full series (which will make the summer glorious) or B: Beat them and end their season right there?

You never lose on purpose in order to 'choose' your opponent. It will bite you in the ass every time, and rightly so.

Losing on purpose is for losers.

[Cheese]

Havent been over to HF for awhile and thought Id drop in on the Oil thread...found these beut's in the Hitchcock incoming thread.


Go look at Ryan Nugent Hopkins also an example of a player that focused way too much on "2 way hockey" and now has very little creativity in his game. He was way better of a player as a rookie before that nonsense got drilled into his head.


It's absurd to blame McDavid for any shortcomings with the Oilers, but he could definitely improve his two-way game. With his skating ability, mind for the game, and ability to strip pucks, he could have a Fedorov-esque two-way game. He's still appreciably better defensively than most other elite scoring centers, though (Bergeron, Barkov, Kopitar, and maybe Crosby, even though his two-way ability gets exaggerated, notwithstanding), but he's got such immense talent that he could easily be in that elite tier.


ROFLMAO E=NG

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Havent been over to HF for awhile and thought Id drop in on the Oil thread...found this beut in the Hitchcock incoming thread.


Go look at Ryan Nugent Hopkins also an example of a player that focused way too much on "2 way hockey" and now has very little creativity in his game. He was way better of a player as a rookie before that nonsense got drilled into his head.


ROFLMAO E=NG

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Not even a question, always B. Anything can happen in the playoffs, if you have the chance to eliminate Edmonton in one game you do it without hesitation

I guess ur right. But imagine beating them in the playoffs. It would be amazing to shut them up so nicely

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

I guess ur right. But imagine beating them in the playoffs. It would be amazing to shut them up so nicely

Though in your original scenario Flames eliminate them from the post-season. Pretty sweet, too.

[CaptainCrunch]

Wait, they think McDavid's two way game is better then a 4 time Selke Winner, a two time Selke winner, one of the better 2 way young players in the NHL and Crosby?



I'm sorry but the weakest part of McDavid's game revolves around that area on his teams side of the rink. He's not generational at this time because he's worthless defensively.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Wait, they think McDavid's two way game is better then a 4 time Selke Winner, a two time Selke winner, one of the better 2 way young players in the NHL and Crosby?



I'm sorry but the weakest part of McDavid's game revolves around that area on his teams side of the rink. He's not generational at this time because he's worthless defensively.

The grammar in that post wasn't great, but it was pretty clear that it said the exact opposite of what you think it did.