11-07-2018, 06:10 AM
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#322
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by edslunch
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I don't know that it is true. One of the replies had a good list of those that were with him that lost:
Dean Heller
Scott Walker
Bruce Rauner
Kris Kobach
Dana Rohrabacher
Pete Sessions
Dave Brat
Claudia Tenney
Kim Davis
Candidates who distanced themselves from him mostly did so because they were in areas that weren't Trump areas, and likely to go Dem anyway.
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11-07-2018, 06:38 AM
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#324
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
As someone that leans right, I was hoping for a complete GOP wipe out tonight so they could oh taken this chance to rebuild the party into a more modern Conservative party.
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Modern conservatism across the globe has become nationalist isolationism. It’s happening here with Scheer and Rempel, Brazil just elected a right wing nationalist, Germany, Sweden, etc are all seeing rising nationalist parties.
That’s modern conservatism. It’s socially conservative, nationalist, and focused on cutting taxes without regard for deficits. #### the future generations, I want to pay less taxes now!
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11-07-2018, 06:39 AM
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#325
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A lot of those losers had Trump's "complete and total endorsement". Only two years to go now. If the economy takes the dive it is setting up for, he's a goner.
The popular vote was a wave. It was more in favor of the democrats than the 2010 Tea Party "revolution".
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11-07-2018, 07:03 AM
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#326
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The outcome seems more like a typical off-presidential year swing than anything else.
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11-07-2018, 07:06 AM
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#327
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Lifetime Suspension
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On what day do the Dems take the house officially? Is it immediate?
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11-07-2018, 07:18 AM
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#329
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Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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11-07-2018, 07:37 AM
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#330
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
The outcome seems more like a typical off-presidential year swing than anything else.
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Not remotely. That was my thought at first too, but as the dust settles this looks more like a wave that has been contained by rural structural vote efficiency advantages and gerrymandering. Consider:
1. Voter turnout of over 114 million, crazy high for a midterm;
2. A popular vote margin of between 8 and 9 percent in favour of Democrats;
3. Historically deep red districts are flipping, or way closer than they should be (King almost loses IA-4; Rohrabacher loses in Orange County; OK-5 goes to the Democrats; Democrats win on Staten Island)
4. Democrats flip 7 governorships and a bunch of state houses; and
5. A social liberal’s wish list of “firsts”—first openly gay governor in Colorado, TWO Native American women and TWO Muslim women elected to Congress, etc. Et .);
6. Republicans come scarily close to losing a statewide race in TEXAS.
Florida is disappointing for Democrats, but their overall performance qualifies as a wave to me. The popular vote margin is larger than any of the recent “wave” elections. All of that plus the fact that this was a nationwide referendum on Trump, and he lost, and lost in the very rust belt states that helped him win in 2016.
I think he’s in trouble in 2020. If this is the electorate in two years he is going to lose the electoral college “bigly”.
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11-07-2018, 07:46 AM
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#331
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Beto 2020?
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11-07-2018, 07:48 AM
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#332
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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rural rednecks and racists still outvote suburban progressives, but the times are a changing.
Can't wait for some investigations into Trumps crooked business dealings.
Also heard this morning that a lot of people are going to high tail it out of there.
Zinke, Devos, Wilbur etc etc.
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11-07-2018, 07:58 AM
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#333
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Beto certainly seems to be the logical choice for 2020, he'll appeal bigly to those blue work Midwest workers and might even be able to bring Florida back from the brink. I certainly think though last night should eliminate people like Booker and Harris, don't think they can get those votes anywhere near someone like Beto.
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11-07-2018, 08:01 AM
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#334
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A pic of Mitch McConnell doing his duty as a citizen (spoilered due to size):
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11-07-2018, 08:13 AM
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#335
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Also I would imagine Democrats will be running even more women in 2020.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1060015218372370432
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11-07-2018, 08:16 AM
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#336
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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11-07-2018, 08:20 AM
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#337
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Originally Posted by DuffMan
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So
“If they are going to waste taxpayer money, we will show them, and waste more taxpayer money.”
You’re welcome, taxpayers
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11-07-2018, 08:26 AM
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#338
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
So
“If they are going to waste taxpayer money, we will show them, and waste more taxpayer money.”
You’re welcome, taxpayers
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Conservative logic, his base loves it.
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11-07-2018, 08:27 AM
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#339
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Beto 2020?
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Catchier than Robert 2020.
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11-07-2018, 08:47 AM
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#340
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
The other thing that is obvious is that OH, PA, MI, and WI will 100% decide the next presidential election to the point that no other state matters. The Democrats absolutely need to go with a candidate who appeals to that area. It's got to be someone who appeals to the working class and not viewed as liberal elite.
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Kasich.
He's not a Democrat, but he would win those states.
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Beto 2020?
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Beto certainly seems to be the logical choice for 2020, he'll appeal bigly to those blue work Midwest workers and might even be able to bring Florida back from the brink. I certainly think though last night should eliminate people like Booker and Harris, don't think they can get those votes anywhere near someone like Beto.
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Beto may, but shouldn't, run for President.
Not that it matters these days, but he doesn't have any executive experience, and I'm not convinced he could win the Midwestern vote. And his legislative experience and accomplishments are, let's be honest, a bit thin.
His message appeals to those who want a change, who believe in inclusivity, and who believe that the government can--or maybe should---do things to help make your life better. There is a large segment of the Midwest that doesn't want or believe in at least one of those things.
Now, could he be the Vice Presidential nominee? Sure...that would be a better position for him, in my view.
Ultimately, at this point in time, my dream team would be Kasich-Beto, but it will never, ever happen.
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