09-02-2018, 07:11 PM
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#621
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Eagles could pay Cox because Wentz is on his rookie deal. Same with the Rams as Goff is on his rookie deal although it appears the Rams are heading into cap he’ll in a couple more years. Raiders had a great 2014 draft getting Mack, Carr, and Jackson and couldn’t pay them all. It’s never a great day when you lose a player like Mack but I’m of the opinion he’s not worth the money he got from the Bears as the Raiders defense was bad with him and the majority of his sacks came against 2nd rate QB’s as in 20 games vs elite QB’s over his career he has registered only 3 sacks.
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09-02-2018, 07:22 PM
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#622
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by DropIt
Except the Eagles just won the Super Bowl with Fletcher Cox who was The 2nd highest paid defensive player in the NFL at the time.
Mack is paid in between Joe Flacco and Alex Smith currently as per the salary per year... neither a top 5 QB and he is a far better and more effective player at his position than either of those players.
QB, Pass rush and offensive line are the 3 pillars of a successful team in this age of the NFL.
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And a QB who was exceptionally good on an entry level deal.
Mitch Trubisky is only one part of that equation.....entry level.
Flacco and Smith are both more important to team success than Mack could ever be. Simply undeniable.
Its far to much money and asset cost for a team without an established or elite QB.
Doesn't mean he isnt a worthwhile investment as far as improving the team he plays on...only saying he wont make a whole lot of difference for that team because of so many other holes on the club.
He will make life difficult for the opposition at times, that is undeniable.
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09-03-2018, 12:31 AM
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#623
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Exsctly, thats why you see stories on the rams window being open now for 2 years
Cause thats when goff has to get paid
Or why the seahawks have had their defense go from the top to mid level at best, cause russ got paid
Or why denver has been going so cheap on qbs since they have monsters on d
You cant have both
The most advantageous time a team has is if they have a top tier qb on a rookie deal, or a veteran who breaks out later in his career, like the vikes last year
This signing puts a clock on chicagos window, all that matters now is if trubisky can get to that level
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09-03-2018, 08:18 AM
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#624
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
With a week to the regular season Shaw still shows NFL Sunday Ticket as unavailable. I'm pretty sure it was announced that cable and satellite providers will be offering this and DAZN keeps NFL RedZone as an exclusive. I don't want to give any more money to DAZN as I hear they are still terrible.
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Might be a shaw thing
Ordered on telus, a few weeks ago
Sunday ticket did stay dazn exclusive
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09-03-2018, 09:06 AM
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#625
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Yeah I think next year and the year after will be the Chiefs chance with Side show Bob at QB. If he can hone his talents than they should have a pretty good offence. But losing out on this year's draft hurt the defence too much for them this year.
I remember when the Chiefs traded Jared Allen. They picked Brandon Albert a Jamaal Charles with the picks. So they got two guys who made pro bowls out of it. So if the Raiders draft well this could pay off.
Even the Jags have this year and than they won't be able to afford the defensive line anymore.
No one seems to be able to win with an average 20 million dollar QB.
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09-03-2018, 10:39 AM
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#626
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Bell still a no-show.
So glad when he's gone. Great player, but the off-the-field circus is tiresome.
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09-03-2018, 12:31 PM
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#627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
Bell still a no-show.
So glad when he's gone. Great player, but the off-the-field circus is tiresome.
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Would be no circus if Steelers paid him his deserving contract.
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09-03-2018, 12:41 PM
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#628
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Would be no circus if Steelers paid him his deserving contract.
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meh. They offered him a 70m deal with 33m in the first two years or so, I'd say that was quite an offer for a running back. Now there's different reports as to how much guaranteed money was in there, but still, that would have been a big commitment to a running back. Bell always says he wants to be paid like a 1RB and 2WR combined, I don't see how that is smart GMing in a cap league. People can point to Gurley and his contract, but he's younger with less mileage and he doesn't come with the injury and marijuana concerns either.
People here argue that signing Mack to that contract was a mistake. I'd argue that I'd much rather overpay a pass rusher than a running back.
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09-03-2018, 05:40 PM
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#629
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Date & Time Favorite Spread Underdog Total Money Odds
9/6 8:20 ET At Philadelphia -2.5 Atlanta 45.5 -$140 +$120
9/9 1:00 ET Pittsburgh -5.5 At Cleveland 46.5 -$250 +$210
9/9 1:00 ET At Minnesota -6 San Francisco 46 -$250 +$210
9/9 1:00 ET At Indianapolis -3 Cincinnati 47 -$160 +$140
9/9 1:00 ET At Baltimore -7 Buffalo 41 -$300 +$250
9/9 1:00 ET Jacksonville -3 At NY Giants 43.5 -$170 +$150
9/9 1:00 ET At New Orleans -9.5 Tampa Bay 49.5 -$450 +$360
9/9 1:00 ET At New England -6.5 Houston 51 -$280 +$240
9/9 1:00 ET Tennessee -2 At Miami 46 -$125 +$105
9/9 4:05 ET At LA Chargers -3 Kansas City 47.5 -$175 +$155
9/9 4:25 ET At Denver -3 Seattle 42 -$155 +$135
9/9 4:25 ET At Carolina -2.5 Dallas 42.5 -$145 +$125
9/9 4:25 ET At Arizona PK Washington 44 -$110 -$110
9/9 8:20 ET At Green Bay -7.5 Chicago 48 -$390 +$320
Monday Night Football Odds
9/10 7:10 ET At Detroit -6.5 NY Jets 44.5 -$290 +$245
9/10 10:20 ET LA Rams -4.5 At Oakland 49.5 -$220 +$180
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09-03-2018, 06:24 PM
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#630
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Are the Bills running some con we don’t know about? Why after naming Peterman your starter (dumb) would you bring in Paxton Lynch for a workout (really dumb)?
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09-03-2018, 06:28 PM
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#631
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Lifetime In Suspension
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edit: cool double post. Yeah. Awesome. So...I dunno. How’s everybody doing? Good? Great. That’s super.
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09-04-2018, 12:56 PM
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#632
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Date & Time Favorite Spread Underdog Total Money Odds
9/6 8:20 ET At Philadelphia -2.5 Atlanta 45.5 -$140 +$120
9/9 1:00 ET Pittsburgh -5.5 At Cleveland 46.5 -$250 +$210
9/9 1:00 ET At Minnesota -6 San Francisco 46 -$250 +$210
9/9 1:00 ET At Indianapolis -3 Cincinnati 47 -$160 +$140
9/9 1:00 ET At Baltimore -7 Buffalo 41 -$300 +$250
9/9 1:00 ET Jacksonville -3 At NY Giants 43.5 -$170 +$150
9/9 1:00 ET At New Orleans -9.5 Tampa Bay 49.5 -$450 +$360
9/9 1:00 ET At New England -6.5 Houston 51 -$280 +$240
9/9 1:00 ET Tennessee -2 At Miami 46 -$125 +$105
9/9 4:05 ET At LA Chargers -3 Kansas City 47.5 -$175 +$155
9/9 4:25 ET At Denver -3 Seattle 42 -$155 +$135
9/9 4:25 ET At Carolina -2.5 Dallas 42.5 -$145 +$125
9/9 4:25 ET At Arizona PK Washington 44 -$110 -$110
9/9 8:20 ET At Green Bay -7.5 Chicago 48 -$390 +$320
Monday Night Football Odds
9/10 7:10 ET At Detroit -6.5 NY Jets 44.5 -$290 +$245
9/10 10:20 ET LA Rams -4.5 At Oakland 49.5 -$220 +$180
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Denver, Washington, LAR, Minnesota at a glance all look good value
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09-04-2018, 03:01 PM
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#633
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Hearing rumblings that Bell is going to sit out until he has to play so his contract doesn't get tolled. I think that is week 9? Pretty crazy if true.
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09-04-2018, 03:20 PM
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#634
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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doubt it. He'd forfeit 850k for every game he's sitting out, and Bell doesn't strike me as a guy who would do that. Still think he'll report at some point this week, but at this point I think they'll primarily go with James Conner in week 1. Bell was rusty as hell early last year and he's sitting out even longer this year, so it makes sense to see what they have in Conner either way. He was really good in preseason (doesn't mean a lot, I know) and they all seem to have confidence in him to be an eventual starter, so we'll see.
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09-04-2018, 03:30 PM
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#635
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Good for him. Only play the bare minimum to accrue a contract year and go FA next summer. I don’t think anyone decent will pay him what he wants but get that money man.
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09-04-2018, 04:28 PM
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#637
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
doubt it. He'd forfeit 850k for every game he's sitting out, and Bell doesn't strike me as a guy who would do that. Still think he'll report at some point this week, but at this point I think they'll primarily go with James Conner in week 1. Bell was rusty as hell early last year and he's sitting out even longer this year, so it makes sense to see what they have in Conner either way. He was really good in preseason (doesn't mean a lot, I know) and they all seem to have confidence in him to be an eventual starter, so we'll see.
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He wants that guaranteed big money though. And the less games he plays the less likely he gets hurt.
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09-04-2018, 07:38 PM
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#638
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Originally Posted by troutman
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Wow. The lack of respect for the Vikings and Rams in those predictions is almost laughable.
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09-04-2018, 08:16 PM
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#639
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Originally Posted by troutman
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Woof.
Some pretty ugly ones in there. Chiefs? Packers?
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09-04-2018, 10:54 PM
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#640
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by troutman
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It's like none of those guys has seen the Chiefs defense before. Chargers I can see because they have Rivers and a good defense but the Chiefs defense could be worst in the league and it's a tall task for a rookie QB to overcome that. Also Alex Smith get's no respect. He was a top 5 QB last season and people in the media think a rookie is going to step in and be as good or better. Just goes to show how bad the media falls in love with shiny new things.
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