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Old 07-15-2018, 09:57 AM   #3201
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Seeing on Reddit, that the first French goal should have been called back on offside, which VAR should have caught. Even after the free kick shouldn’t have been called in the first place.

Pogba was clearly offside, and is in the scrum for the header (I.e in the play)
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:59 AM   #3202
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^^It was an own goal, no offside there unless there is clear interference with the play. The penalty was clear cut on the VAR.

I think Croatia can still come back though, the French have two key defenders with yellow cards already.

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Pogba was offside on the first goal. Is he interfering with play? Are the defenders distracted by him

I would say yes and it should have been called back.
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:00 AM   #3204
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thought it was a dive at first too, but Griezmann was clearly fouled. Pen was the right call too.

very unlucky for Croatia, but not the refs/VARs fault.
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People blaming the ref for the penalty? Blame Vida. He's the one who needlessly conceited the stupid corner with a lazy header.
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:01 AM   #3206
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^^lol it was an own goal, no offside there unless there is clear interference with the play.
Not when the offside player was directly behind Mandzukic
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:02 AM   #3207
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The English will never understand handball. And they will always hate VAR. The panel proves it.

Don't put the ref in that position? What's that?

Your hand cannot block space period.
I'll take a former World Cup official's opinion and experience in Webb over pretty much anyone else on any panel, no matter the nationality.

Other points he made stand firm. The natural movement can be argued, though I believe it is.... but a 4 min review time is a lot longer. It's not like he jogged over there and saw something blatant he missed. He even went back and took a second look and third look. That's not a blatant miss of a call, which is the intention.
I really don't think he wanted to call t but the voices in the ear certainly influenced him for those 4 mins.
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Webb reffed a world cup final and Robinson coaches Vancouver. Shocking they don't understand handball.

Panel doesn't even talk about Pogba being in an offside position.

Garbage.

And I still cant understand the Scottish guy.
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:03 AM   #3209
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Debate the penalty that's fine. But there's no debate France is lucky to be ahead. Croatia has carried the play and had the chances. This is how an underdog would cobble together a ####ty lead. But to see France get this luck after Croatia dominate? Hard to swallow.
Good teams find a way to win. For many, France was the favourite to win this tournament going in and by all accounts have been the best team thus far. Yet, they're lucky to be ahead? I get you're a Croatia fan but....
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thought it was a dive at first too, but Griezmann was clearly fouled. Pen was the right call too.

very unlucky for Croatia, but not the refs/VARs fault.
Where was a he clearly fouled? Pretty weak in my opinion
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People blaming the ref for the penalty? Blame Vida. He's the one who needlessly conceited the stupid corner with a lazy header.
Soccer pundits from various networks seem all unanimous that it was a bad call. And it was
TSN panel nailed it and provided a cogent explanation.
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Your hand cannot block space period.
What is this statement about?

How on earth do you move or stand without your hand blocking space?

Are you suggesting players run around with their hands by their side or in front of them?
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thought it was a dive at first too, but Griezmann was clearly fouled. Pen was the right call too.

very unlucky for Croatia, but not the refs/VARs fault.
I’m not sure what you are seeing. Griezman has made a diving movement to act like he was tripped, and is falling to the ground before he is even touched.
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Pogba wasn't even offside. There's Vidas foot behind him.

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Good teams find a way to win. For many, France was the favourite to win this tournament going in and by all accounts have been the best team thus far. Yet, they're lucky to be ahead? I get you're a Croatia fan but....
Eh, I disagree with Whiteout on a lot of things but he’s 100% right. Croatia has been better and they should feel unlucky/hard done by.
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The English will never understand handball. And they will always hate VAR. The panel proves it.

Don't put the ref in that position? What's that?

Your hand cannot block space period.


It’s funny how you are saying a group of people will never understand football whilst demonstrating your misunderstanding of a rule.


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I agree with the TSN guys. Shouldn’t have been a penalty. If you need to take that long on VAR to award it you shouldn’t. But this is the World Cup of VAR penalties so..
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Griezmann is clearly looking for contact and going down a bit early, but that doesn't change the fact that he's hit.
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What is this statement about?

How on earth do you move or stand without your hand blocking space?

Are you suggesting players run around with their hands by their side or in front of them?
Yes. The ball would have been centered in front of it did not hit the hand.

You often see fullbacks with arms behind their back when the winger is about to cross.

Not all fouls are deliberate. Some are unfortunate. An unfortunate trip, grab or handball.

If perisic was deemed to deliberately handle he would have been booked.
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:08 AM   #3220
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It’s funny how you are saying a group of people will never understand football whilst demonstrating your misunderstanding of a rule.


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The ref and 4 guys in VAR called a clear penalty reversing a call. I think they are right.
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