Anthony Bourdain dead at 61

[Makarov]

Sad, sad news. He seemed to genuinely love food, drink and people (not necessarily in that order). My kind of guy.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

yeah because he died in a tragic accident? Only the most selfish thing a person can do. He was a quitter when things got tough.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

And yes believe it or not, to some people he was perfectly healthy, such a waste. Of course you guys would cry about my post lol

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

This makes zero sense, I just think suicide is taking the easy way out. And it’s selfish. I’m not trying to impress anyone.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Well I agree that mental illness plays a role a lot of the time but not always by default, some eople just give up.
I was saddened to see the news and then I clicked on it and read it was suicide and it pissed me off.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

If I committed suicide, have at er. This wasn’t about me but you obviously want to make it about me.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

it’s funny I never tell people to shut the f up when they post their opinions.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Where? It’s avout Anthony Boutdain I said nothing about my life whatsoever, I voiced an opinion, read into it however u like.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Why do u want to make it about me?
Ive attempted suicide (a lousy attempt, mind you ) and deal with suicidal thoughts.but go ahead tell me my opinion is purely derived from ignorance.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

That I think suicide is a crappy thing to do and it’s a selfish, easy way out. I said nothing about his motives but from where I sit he Was healthy. Many people battle with depression but still battle through it and survive. Guess he didn’t have it in him. Who knows

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Cool I know it’s not about me. I voiced an opinion, we can’t post opinions here? Thought it was a discussion board. See, thank you for saying thanks for your input, more mature way to respond to an opinion you don’t agree with instead of telling someone to shut the F up

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I’m not trying to be a tough guy I truly do not agree with suicide, Jesus. I have lost friends to suicide like I’m sure many of you have.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I act a certain way when people push opinion as fact, like you just did there. ITs your opinion that my opinion was “very stupid”

Thanks for the input, I respect your opinion

Still think mr Bourdain quit, whatever the reason

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I actually loved Anthony bourdains show and watched it for years.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I don’t really care if I’m ignored or engaged, but if you do engage I will always respond, I’m not afraid to take the heat.

I was a fan, too, just now thibk he’s an #######

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

He had an 11 year old daughter? Ffs he really was an ####### if he did commit suicide. poor girl

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Thanks for this post I probably am more critical than most, I don’t have the right to be critical, can’t help myself. I believe 99% of able bodied people have it better than me, and suicide pisses me off. I probably use the internet to vent. Maybe it’s how I deal with anger.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Lol yup I wasn’t very good 30 years ago when I tried it, but guess what I got over it and haven’t quit despite going though things you have no idea about.

I’m

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

no matter how good things are, I’ll still never agree with suicide.

You don’t agree with me, does everyone with a different opinion need help?

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

It doesn’t have to be ruined, continue talking about Anthony bourdain, I only voiced an opinion about one small aspect about him, I’m sure there was more to his life than the ending

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

You keep saying stop but then reply again, ffs. I’m just responding, it’s a message board.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I have compassion I feel bad for his 11 year old daughter and family. Because I don’t agree with suicide it’s obviously something to do with my problems? Lol keep trying to turn it around, it’s nothibg to do with anything else.

Religious people believe it’s a sin and you go to hell, does that make them bitter? Misguided maybe.

I get it, you disagree with my opinion. Don’t need to make it personal

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I was saddened and shocked when I saw the thread title just like most of you. I enjoyed the show he had, it was interesting and he was very knowledgeable. Seemed like a cool guy, hard to understand.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Lmao I was waiting for the wheelchair Stab, I expect no less

My standing up for my opinions like a man prove otherwise, at least I don’t make a drive by post and run away, I’ll take the heat, I’m not a coward.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Funny thing is, I’ll acceot your opinion, where as I bet if I called you an #######, I’m sure you wouid hit the report button and I’d get an infraction.

You see I don’t call someone an ####### when I don’t agree with their opinion. I think some of you aren’t acting very mature.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Lol hypocrite much? You want him banned but you call him names

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Lol I’m good thanks, and you can push me all you want, I’ll nrver have a melt down or rage quit, won’t give you the satisfaction.

Your complaining is humiliating.why don’t you delete yours if you hate it here so much?

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Yes they are lucky people, I’m not one of them, anxiety and depression sucks ass

I was going to write something long and involved about suicide.

If you ask nicely the mods might delete these posts for you.

[rotten42]

Because of A.B's influence I have seen a great deal of the back roads/mountain areas of Jamaica rather than the resort areas. Instead of Margaritaville or some chain bar, we travelled into the mountains delivering fish to rasta's. Instead on lying on the seven mile beach we went spear fishing with a local in Blue Field Bay and then back to his place to eat with his family rather than chartering a tour boat. Having not watched his shows I would never have thought to see Jamaica this way.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

Devastating news. I truly admired Bourdain and have been a huge fan of his for many years. I loved the way he looked at life and he really inspired me to dive further into two of my greatest passions - food and travel. How he looked at the world with such a great appreciation for different cultures was truly inspiring.

He will be greatly missed. RIP.

I think one of the best things about him was the fact that he was the least pretentious and most honest travel and food critic out there.

He was equally at home in a 5-Star restaurant that are impossible to get into as he would be getting street-meat in the middle of the night from some guy cooking over a barrel.

He would wholeheartedly acknowledge that it doesnt have to come out of the world's fanciest kitchen for it to still be good food.

I cant remember how many times you see him eating at some streetside dive with plastic tables and patio furniture and digging into something and just being honest about what it is and why he liked it.

I could go on about so many favourite moments but one that pops into my head frequently was when he went to Finland (I think?) and he was on a radio show and was asking about home cooked food and someone called in and invited him over to her Grandmother's house for a home cooked meal and he went!

That was so cool!

I think the ethos that I gleaned from him was just to be adventurous. Just roll with it.

When you're traveling things may not be perfect. Your hotel might suck, that restaurant might look sketchy, that street vendor may not be up to health code.

Just roll with it.

That hotel might have character and the people who run it might know some of the best places. that sketchy restaurant might have a chef who has been cooking forever and is amazing and that street vendor just might have something delicious to sell you.

You never know unless you try.

Its actually a sad day because an courageous and adventurous traveler, and someone who inspired those same qualities in others is no longer with us.

[Wormius]

I knew nothing about him until watching episodes of Top Chef, where he was the occasional judge. The contestants seemed to have some odd fear of him, so eventually I found his book, Kitchen Confidential and couldn't put it down. His "what do you know about me?" anecdote actually made me laugh out loud when I got to the end.

[Matata]

My empathy for the suicidal is outweighed by my disgust for abandoning a young child, can't really wrap my head around it. The man had the ability to live his life any way he wanted to and had all the motivation in the world to keep on going, I would suspect it's related to his past addiction issues and psych meds (it seems like every mass shooting and celebrity suicide involves them), but I'd love to hear an expert that knew AB to dissect it all.

[PepsiFree]

Another thing he taught, which has totally changed the way I travel, was his interest in imbedding himself in a culture when experiencing a new place.

I still see the “things to see” when I travel, but I’ve also found a new appreciation for just going where the locals go, travelling off the beaten paths, and in general just doing my best to experience places as I would if I were a local (as much as possible, in a traveler sense). Really incredible how different the world looks when you have that mindset.

[Regular_John]

This one hurts.

I first remember watching Bourdain on the food network as a teen and falling in love with this surly New Yorker who drank & smoked and loved The Ramones.

Later in life when I started my career in design I read Kitchen Confidential and was blown away by the parallels between working in a professional kitchen & my experience working in the "creative" design industry. In that they are both a ton of long grinding hours executing on ideas with constraints on all sides, much more so than coming up with unbridled creative ideas all day.

In recent years he's become the go to travel guide for my wife and I, my wife was anxious about visiting cities like Tokyo and New York, until we watched the respective episodes of No Reservations/Parts Unknown/The Layover with Bourdain. He had a gift for demystifying the unknown, and making the uncertain much more approachable.

He even got me back into eating meat with his excellent argument that vegetarianism is a first world privilege I was partaking in, while disconnecting from the world at large.

Having said all that, it's apparent he put some very heavy miles on his mind/body over the years. As glossy as his life looked on the outside... it was a lot of airports/hotels/bars he was subjected to, in addition to the drug use of his earlier days.

If you watch The Layover you'll occasionally catch a glimpse of a man in his 50s-60s downing his 3rd or 4th beer of the afternoon and it would click "holy #### this is his life, his job. He's not doing this for 3 weeks out of the year while on vacation... this is his every day." then he'd hop into a cab and hammer back a few more cocktails with a load of fried food.

Overall he lived life to it's fullest, and the experienced he so widely shared made the world seem a bit smaller and friendlier. He'll be missed.

[Nufy]

Both sides of this debate are actually embarrassing for CP as a whole.

Maybe you all need a week off.

Pathetic...the whole lot of you.

FG's opinion may not be wanted / appreciated but he is the more mature one in this discussion.

But keep on with the name calling and attacks on his mobility. It make this whole place look great.

Welcome to the CP Junior High Locker Room.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Nufy

Both sides of this debate are actually embarrassing for CP as a whole.

Maybe you all need a week off.

Pathetic...the whole lot of you.

FG's opinion may not be wanted / appreciated but he is the more mature one in this discussion.

But keep on with the name calling and attacks on his mobility. It make this whole place look great.

Welcome to the CP Junior High Locker Room.

I largely agree with you, but 'Place and Time.'

Here and now is not it.

[East Coast Flame]

Originally Posted by Locke

I think one of the best things about him was the fact that he was the least pretentious and most honest travel and food critic out there.

He was equally at home in a 5-Star restaurant that are impossible to get into as he would be getting street-meat in the middle of the night from some guy cooking over a barrel.

He would wholeheartedly acknowledge that it doesnt have to come out of the world's fanciest kitchen for it to still be good food.

I cant remember how many times you see him eating at some streetside dive with plastic tables and patio furniture and digging into something and just being honest about what it is and why he liked it.

I could go on about so many favourite moments but one that pops into my head frequently was when he went to Finland (I think?) and he was on a radio show and was asking about home cooked food and someone called in and invited him over to her Grandmother's house for a home cooked meal and he went!

That was so cool!

I think the ethos that I gleaned from him was just to be adventurous. Just roll with it.

When you're traveling things may not be perfect. Your hotel might suck, that restaurant might look sketchy, that street vendor may not be up to health code.

Just roll with it.

That hotel might have character and the people who run it might know some of the best places. that sketchy restaurant might have a chef who has been cooking forever and is amazing and that street vendor just might have something delicious to sell you.

You never know unless you try.

Its actually a sad day because an courageous and adventurous traveler, and someone who inspired those same qualities in others is no longer with us.

Definitely. I loved how he could travel to some remote location and dive right in while never being patronizing or looking down on the people and how they lived their lives. His curiosity and appreciation for cultures and food vastly different than our own was inspiring.

[Otto-matic]

One of my favorite Bourdain Quotes.

"Meals make the society, hold the fabric together in lots of ways that were charming and interesting and intoxicating to me. The perfect meal, or the best meals, occur in a context that frequently has very little to do with the food itself.

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by Locke

I largely agree with you, but 'Place and Time.'

Here and now is not it.

Fine...

Don't engage and let it die...(bad choice of words I guess)

I respect that some people are offended by the opinion.

Some are arguing for the sake of arguing.

[Canehdianman]

Hopefully these recent celeb suicides get people to talk about it more openly and to get proper treatment and funding in place.

A few of you probably need to stop feeding the trolls too.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Another thing he taught, which has totally changed the way I travel, was his interest in imbedding himself in a culture when experiencing a new place.

I still see the “things to see” when I travel, but I’ve also found a new appreciation for just going where the locals go, travelling off the beaten paths, and in general just doing my best to experience places as I would if I were a local (as much as possible, in a traveler sense). Really incredible how different the world looks when you have that mindset.

Thanks to Bourdain, the first place I go on any trip outside on North America/Western Europe is to the local market. I've yet to regret it.

[cKy]

Suicide is something that seriously needs to be discussed more openly with everyone's opinions attached. I had used to think that suicide was the cowardly way out when I was younger.

Idols, stars, and even regular people die by their own choice for their own reasons and not one us can judge them for that. I have myself dealt and continue to deal with depression and can say having 2 small children makes those issues and fears compound the situation.

After reading this thread, this verse from Chester (Linkin Park) seems pretty appropriate.

When my time comes
Forget the wrong that I've done
Help me leave behind some reasons to be missed
And don't resent me
And when you're feeling empty
Keep me in your memory
Leave out all the rest

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Nufy

Fine...

Don't engage and let it die...(bad choice of words I guess)

I respect that some people are offended by the opinion.

Some are arguing for the sake of arguing.

Again, I agree with you for the most part.

Dion started a 'Suicide' thread months ago, bringing it up in this thread, today, is like going to a funeral and complaining about the food.

This thread should be about Bourdain, mental illness and suicide, while important topics, have their own time and place.

[CrunchBite]

Originally Posted by Matata

My empathy for the suicidal is outweighed by my disgust for abandoning a young child, can't really wrap my head around it. The man had the ability to live his life any way he wanted to and had all the motivation in the world to keep on going, I would suspect it's related to his past addiction issues and psych meds (it seems like every mass shooting and celebrity suicide involves them), but I'd love to hear an expert that knew AB to dissect it all.

Being able to admit you can't wrap your head around it is the first step to maybe understanding depression and suicide.

Because you're right, it doesn't make sense for a healthy/non-ill mind.

[CliffFletcher]

Well that sucks. Watched all his shows, and admired the way he pushed the envelope of food and travel entertainment into something more provocative. Seemed like a guy you'd love to have a drink or four with.

But I don't know that I'm shocked. I just finished reading Medium Raw, and in his books he makes it clear that he's been deliberately veering over the shoulder all his adult life. Nobody goes that hard with the booze and drugs into their 50s unless they're running away from something.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Going there in 3 weeks, thanks to Bourdain.

I ate there, they have the table that Obama and Bourdain sat at enclosed in a glass case. They also have the Obama special, which is like a bun cha combo and a decent deal. I thought the food was pretty good, but my Vietnamese wife says there are much better places in Hanoi