05-31-2018, 09:54 AM
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#5481
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
When will people finally learn that voting NDP as a protest vote is the stupidest thing one can ever do? Ever.
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as opposed to Ford? Slash and dash Ford?
Backroom politics Ford?
Im not so sure thats the case.
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05-31-2018, 09:56 AM
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#5482
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
When will people finally learn that voting NDP as a protest vote is the stupidest thing one can ever do? Ever.
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Weird situation here where it is almost the exact opposite. It’s a lose lose lose situation.
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05-31-2018, 10:24 AM
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#5483
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Just as a fun tidbit of information, this morning CMLC released an RFP for a Public Engagement Program for a 'Potential Bid for the 2026 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games'. Who knows, there could be arena content involved in that particular pursuit.
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05-31-2018, 04:03 PM
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#5484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
When will people finally learn that voting NDP as a protest vote is the stupidest thing one can ever do? Ever.
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Maybe the other parties shouldn't do things that make people want to protest vote in the first place...
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05-31-2018, 04:29 PM
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#5485
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
Maybe the other parties shouldn't do things that make people want to protest vote in the first place...
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Such as?
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05-31-2018, 04:33 PM
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#5486
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Such as?
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If you think the NDP vote in Ontario is a protest vote, and you aren’t aware of anything the Cons or Libs have done to blow the vote, then I’d recommend starting at the start and digging your way through the issues.
That province is le mess.
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05-31-2018, 04:44 PM
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#5487
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
If you think the NDP vote in Ontario is a protest vote, and you aren’t aware of anything the Cons or Libs have done to blow the vote, then I’d recommend starting at the start and digging your way through the issues.
That province is le mess.
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Yeah... I’m so grateful to be here.
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05-31-2018, 04:48 PM
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#5488
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Yeah... it's only really a protest vote if you ignore the fact that Wynne's liberals have some notable dirty dealings (the PPP agreement has already led to an arrest on her team for Bribery) and Doug Ford and campaign seems like a total mess (do I really need to expand on this?), not to mention the ongoing, and very real accusations of vote fixing in the conservative leadership race. It's a perfect storm for an NDP victory to be honest- if Mulroney had won the con leadership race this wouldn't even be a discussion, but since cheeto jr is giving people pause there's a real chance the relative obscurity of Horwath will result in her eeking out a victory.
It really is "le mess"
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05-31-2018, 05:03 PM
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#5489
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
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While it may be true, the whole article is written by a former NDP advisor, so of course they are going the pump the tires of the party! haha
I've learned over the years what you read in the media you have to read with an open mind as you're only getting the information they want to give you. How many pre-election polls for have been wrong in the last few years?
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05-31-2018, 10:08 PM
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#5490
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
When will people finally learn that voting NDP as a protest vote is the stupidest thing one can ever do? Ever.
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Or people should just vote based on the actual platform that is being campaigned on? When will people finally learn that voting blindly for any given party is stupid?
For the record, I used to be very PC, but over the years I just vote for the actual party that is campaigning for the changes that I actually want to see in Canada. They get my vote. Besides, both the Liberals and Conservatives have done outrageously irresponsible crap anyway. No party deserves a blind vote. Make each party earn it. If it happens to be the NDP, then so be it. People think the social democrats are like the communist party here, and I think it comes from our schooling. It is the norm in most of the European nations with a higher standard of living, so it isn't like it is some evil red menace or something. LoL Earn the damn vote, and I will vote for you. Don't do what you promised during your campaign, or do something completely stupid like embezzle funds, and you automatically lose my vote for the next election.
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06-01-2018, 06:51 AM
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#5491
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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Came for some information on the arena issue.
Left with several lectures from political experts.
Satisfied.
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06-01-2018, 07:22 AM
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#5492
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
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Yes, he'll win. Down in polls but he's still projecting a majority for seats. Might not win the popular vote but he'll win the election (sounds familiar...).
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06-01-2018, 06:13 PM
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#5493
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
I read an article by Ryan Pike on FlamesNation, about whether the Flames are sustainable @ the Saddledome.
Not gonna quote it, he either disingenuously or incompetently neglected to include, Hitmen/Roughnecks revenues as a huge incentive to the (Flames/CSEC).
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It was a conscious decision.
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06-01-2018, 06:34 PM
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#5494
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeway
It was a conscious decision.
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And a good one.
Even if those teams made a tonne of money, which they don't ... it wouldn't really make for much of a go forward model.
"it's easy ... buy and NHL team and then buy up all the other teams in the city too to make sure you break even!"
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06-02-2018, 01:00 AM
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#5495
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
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Loved the owner who said it cost $10k to get an audit.
I’m with the people in this report who said the financials aren’t that informative.
I believe the Hitmen can make money considering no player salaries and a sweetheart lease. Is it enough to matter in the arena debacle? I don’t imagine so.
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06-02-2018, 01:15 AM
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#5496
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Franchise Player
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LOL, at that report and those losses.
Twice the reported loss, of the Kootenay dismal-attendance-problems Ice, and without an anchor tenant.
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06-02-2018, 01:38 AM
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#5497
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
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Ken King at it again?
2016 attendance:
Calgary Hitman - 8217 per game (best in the dub)
Edmonton Oil Kings - 6838 per game
Swift Current Broncos - 1970 per game (second worst)
Kootnay Ice - 1957 per game (worst)
Profits/Losses
Calgary Hitman - -$387,333
Edmonton Oil Kings - +$1.4 million
Swift Current Broncos - +$144,644
Kootnay Ice - -$155,897
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06-02-2018, 02:12 AM
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#5498
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeway
It was a conscious decision.
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I would like to see an elaboration on the rationale
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06-02-2018, 11:20 AM
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#5499
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Ken King at it again?
2016 attendance:
Calgary Hitman - 8217 per game (best in the dub)
Edmonton Oil Kings - 6838 per game
Swift Current Broncos - 1970 per game (second worst)
Kootnay Ice - 1957 per game (worst)
Profits/Losses
Calgary Hitman - -$387,333
Edmonton Oil Kings - +$1.4 million
Swift Current Broncos - +$144,644
Kootnay Ice - -$155,897
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I assume there is some kind of revenue sharing incentive to keep the revenues in the arena corp rather than the hitmen corp
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06-02-2018, 11:31 AM
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#5500
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Ken King at it again?
2016 attendance:
Calgary Hitman - 8217 per game (best in the dub)
Edmonton Oil Kings - 6838 per game
Swift Current Broncos - 1970 per game (second worst)
Kootnay Ice - 1957 per game (worst)
Profits/Losses
Calgary Hitman - -$387,333
Edmonton Oil Kings - +$1.4 million
Swift Current Broncos - +$144,644
Kootnay Ice - -$155,897
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It all adds up to essentially zero doesn't it?
You guys are looking in the wrong spot for a smoking gun.
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