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Old 04-23-2018, 10:41 AM   #1401
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Okay, lets see how similar this compares to the Flames presser, the script matches so perfectly.

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Old 04-23-2018, 10:42 AM   #1402
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How complicated are these systems that it takes pro hockey players a full season to grasp?
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It's more of a crutch than anything else IMO. Prepare to have this excuse trotted out if Flames get off to a slow start.

Vegas seemed to handle this situation OK.
Yeah, the new coach means many months to adjust meme is just an excuse. Sure didn't seem to affect Vegas. And the players that get sent to Olympics and World Cup competitions aren't exactly tied up in knots for the duration trying to figure out how to play.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:42 AM   #1403
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I understand why people may be underwhelmed by hiring another not so proven coach, but when did AV become the second coming of Scotty Bowman? He was given two extremely good teams in Vancouver and NY and never won a cup. There’s a reason New York didn’t want him to lead the future of their franchise, I doubt he wanted to leave.
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The vast majority of fans were right about Gulutzan 2 years ago, and a vaster (?) majority knew he needed to go by December. The fact that the majority of fans think something isn't recessarily a reason to believe it, but recent history suggest that, when it comes to Flames coaching decisions, the vast majority of fans know better than the GM.
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Moreover, while a sizeable number of posters were correct about the eventual outcome I remain unconvinced that many have accurately identified precisely the problems with Gulutzan and his time with the Flames.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:42 AM   #1405
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I hope I am proven wrong by this one. First time I have publicly doubted Brad Treliving. The process better not be rinse, wash, repeat.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:45 AM   #1406
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AV makes the playoffs every year.

It's what he does.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:46 AM   #1407
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AV makes the playoffs every year.

It's what he does.
Except this year.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:47 AM   #1408
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One of the best posts on here. Fully agree and great examples. Let's be optimistic!

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I find it hilarious how most people probably watched less than 3 Carolina hockey games this past year. Just because it is not Sutter or AV doesn't mean we should start crapping on the new coach already.

Give him a chance and see what he can accomplish. Is that too hard?

Remember the countless times the fans on here have been wrong? Remember when we were all sooooo ticked off that management didn't select Alexei Cherepanov (RIP) or Angelo Esposito in the draft? Or when we all thought the Flames had 3 potential Team Canada defensemen with the addition of Bouwmeester? Then again, last year we thought we had the best dman core in the league?

All I am saying is, if you really truly don't know about the guy (I certainly don't) and basing it on a few posters on CP, lighten up and keep an open mind - Enjoy the weather outside instead of having a bad day.
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Except this year.
He's missed twice in 11 years.

The Flames have made the playoffs twice in 11 years.
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My favourite was when he'd watch the monitors on the bench at their feet and some posters thought he was hanging his head in defeat.
And I'm one of those people. Its not that hes hanging his head in defeat, he should be rallying his troops.

You've got Gelinas upstairs and Cameron doing seemingly nothing of any use, let your assistants scour the ipad while you talk to your players and get them ready to rebound and come out swinging on their next shift.

How many times did we give up goals in bunches because we'd get scored on and then the next shift goes out and gets scored on again?
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:49 AM   #1411
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AV makes the playoffs every year.

It's what he does.
It will be interesting to see how he does without a roster that’s ripe to become a contender.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:50 AM   #1412
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Yeah, the new coach means many months to adjust meme is just an excuse. Sure didn't seem to affect Vegas. And the players that get sent to Olympics and World Cup competitions aren't exactly tied up in knots for the duration trying to figure out how to play.
Which has way more to do with the players willing to change what they want to do, to what they need to do than it does anything systems related.

Its my personal opinion that the reason for the failures here the last year were player related far more than it was coaching.

Its also the very reason Vegas is doing what it is doing...the guys have all bought in for each other and their city and to be successful they all needed to be pulling on the same rope.

All of these things are contingent on adequate to great goaltending though. That has never been more apparent than the last few years in Calgary, and also the biggest part of what the Knights have accomplished. MAF has been lights out.
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I am most interested to know which other Canadian team was making a pitch for Peters. Was it Ottawa? Edmonton? Montreal?
My source said they thought Ottawa. They haven't had a chance to really chat with him, he's been on the move and really busy. They said that Bill actually shut his phone off from it blowing up all weekend with texts and calls. It took him 8 hours to reply to their message to him. I'm sure they will ask and find out who the other teams were. I'll see what I can get confirmed.

I told them to ensure Bill knows that Brodie needs to be tried back out on the right side, Brouwer to the pressbox and any updates on who's getting traded for RW help. I said, if he does the top two, his start here will go much better haha.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:54 AM   #1414
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Just win.

Talk, perception, and underlying stats mean nothing. Excusing losses is no longer acceptable.
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How many times did we give up goals in bunches because we'd get scored on and then the next shift goes out and gets scored on again?
Couldn't recall the exact figure, but think it was somewhere between 20-25 games this season where we've had 2+ goals against in rapid succession (which is, of course, completely pathetic and unacceptable)
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:55 AM   #1416
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Just win.

Talk, perception, and underlying stats mean nothing. Excusing losses is no longer acceptable.
I think the team knows this is their last chance to really prove they're a group that can contend for a Stanley Cup. Another year of scrapping by and you might see some big names being dealt next year.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:57 AM   #1417
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Streams:

https://www.facebook.com/NHLFlames

https://globalnews.ca/news/4161209/c...medium=Twitter

https://www.tsn.ca/live (May need access to TSNGo). Go to TSN 3


https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...ew-head-coach/

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Old 04-23-2018, 10:58 AM   #1418
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Loves the City
We have a great group of young talent
Our management team is top notch
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Team will play uptempo in your face fast hockey
Get an identity and stick with it
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:59 AM   #1419
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Except this year.
and 1998-99 and 1999-2000.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:59 AM   #1420
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#1 question by the media needs to be, what are your thoughts on D pairings and handedness?
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