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Inferno · 04-23-2018, 10:17 AM

Even though I've had time to prepare for this I'm still pretty disappointed. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

dammage79 · 04-23-2018, 10:24 AM

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It's my birthday. Just saying.

Happy Birthday. Hope you enjoy the Flames gift.

bax · 04-23-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

How complicated are these systems that it takes pro hockey players a full season to grasp?

I don't think it's so much about grasping the concept of it as it is just feeling natural within the system. So often we hear about players "thinking too much" and that players are at their best when they just go out and "react". The systems probably take some time to become second nature.

dammage79 · 04-23-2018, 10:25 AM

Still hoping for a WWE style twist where Treliving introduces the new coach with saying a name and AV walks out to John Cenas music. Then Peter's is announced as assistant.

dissentowner · 04-23-2018, 10:25 AM

Where can I watch the press conference? Is SN covering it?

the2bears · 04-23-2018, 10:26 AM

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It's my birthday. Just saying.

Happy Birthday. It's mine, too.

Toonage · 04-23-2018, 10:26 AM

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Where can I watch the press conference? Is SN covering it?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...ew-head-coach/

N-E-B · 04-23-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

Where can I watch the press conference? Is SN covering it?

Likely will be on the Flames website as well as their Twitter and Facebook pages.

Strange Brew · 04-23-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

How complicated are these systems that it takes pro hockey players a full season to grasp?

It's more of a crutch than anything else IMO. Prepare to have this excuse trotted out if Flames get off to a slow start.

Vegas seemed to handle this situation OK.

Calgary4LIfe · 04-23-2018, 10:27 AM

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I view it similarly but slightly different

Hartley: Strong motivator (short-term), held players accountable, not a great strategist or systems guy

GG: Strong systems guy, not a great motivator.

Peters: Hopefully the mix of both. By all reports both a strong systems guy and a taskmaster.

How do you arrive at your conclusion that Hartley was a weak systems guy, and Gulutzan was a strong systems guy? I figure when a coach comes in, manages to institute a system that provides for actual success, that he is a strong systems guy. Gulutzan wasn't able to do that, and I think people look at some of the advanced metrics and say he was a strong systems guy. I don't think that it was an issue with motivation when it came to Gulutzan. I think it was a poorly designed system for this team.

At any rate, I am looking forward to this press conference. I assume Peters will be present? Deeply interested to hear any tidbits about how he wants this team to play, and I really hope someone throws him a question similar to: "This team has played possession hockey for the last 2 seasons with poor results. What changes do you plan on making for this team to be successful?" Something like that. Of course he won't have all the answers off the bat, but I like how Hartley (a hire I disliked with passion) came in, talked about how exactly he wants this team to play, and did it.

Unless I hear exactly what I want to hear, or hear something I totally disagree with, today is not a day you hang or applaud Peters. I want to see how this team performs under him, and reserve my judgment in increments throughout the coming season.

Change was without a doubt needed. This is change. Let's see what this change brings.

Textcritic · 04-23-2018, 10:28 AM

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Have a great one!

I am scheduled to argue with two students today about why they wrote such awful term papers. Yay, for me.

Textcritic · 04-23-2018, 10:31 AM

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I don't know for sure if they asked permission to speak to Peters, but I do know as of last Monday, well before he had resigned, that he had 2 offers in hand from Canadian teams. I know media speculated that Calgary asked permission, when they said that though, he already had his offer. They likely got that information correct, just the timeline was late.

I am most interested to know which other Canadian team was making a pitch for Peters. Was it Ottawa? Edmonton? Montreal?

transplant99 · 04-23-2018, 10:32 AM

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I am scheduled to argue with two students today about why they wrote such awful term papers. Yay, for me.

Gotta say...i feel really really bad for those students without having a clue about them or their work.

They are going to get their lunch handed to them.

Beninho · 04-23-2018, 10:32 AM

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I am scheduled to argue with two students today about why they wrote such awful term papers. Yay, for me.

Given your posts I would hate to be those students... haha happy birthday

Toonage · 04-23-2018, 10:32 AM

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I am scheduled to argue with two students today about why they wrote such awful term papers. Yay, for me.

Bring birthday cake. Smooth things over.

transplant99 · 04-23-2018, 10:33 AM

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I am most interested to know which other Canadian team was making a pitch for Peters. Was it Ottawa? Edmonton? Montreal?

Had to be Ottawa. The other two guys arent going anywhere.

The Rangers were pushing too. Then there was another team apparently though its not been suggested who that was, but the one that would make sense is obviously Dallas.

Enoch Root · 04-23-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gargamel

The vast majority of fans were right about Gulutzan 2 years ago, and a vaster (?) majority knew he needed to go by December. The fact that the majority of fans think something isn't recessarily a reason to believe it, but recent history suggest that, when it comes to Flames coaching decisions, the vast majority of fans know better than the GM.

There is a big difference between assessing current performance (Gulutzan) and predicting future performance.

flames_fan_down_under · 04-23-2018, 10:39 AM

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Had to be Ottawa. The other two guys arent going anywhere.

The Rangers were pushing too. Then there was another team apparently though its not been suggested who that was, but the one that would make sense is obviously Dallas.

Interesting. This explains why Treliving's timeline to get a new coach was so expedited, he knew there was a market for Peters and needed to get his guy ASAP.

BloodFetish · 04-23-2018, 10:40 AM

I'm going with a theory that AV checked into a hotel room under the assumed name Bill Peters.

868904 · 04-23-2018, 10:41 AM

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I'm confident in saying that Brad called more than one person and didn't make the decision in two days. They've probably been looking for a long time now.

I think you are right.

Tre was probably looking since Christmas. I'm sure during the season, guys like King, Edwards, Burke, Connie were probably "having lunch" with Darryl to test the waters.

Tre ultimately felt Peters is the right guy based on his past experience.

I'm not so hung up on the lack of a "process". Tre pretty much scoured and did all the research for coaches when he hired Gulutzan. In that two year span, I don't know that there was some new hot shot coach that appeared and even if there was, Tre wasn't going to go completely green.

I'm sure Tre has spoken with every coach already, whether under contract or not. A lot of times, you run into people at NHL functions and conversations happen. Doesn't always have to be a formal sit down interview.

Tre has done his homework, the only question is, did he do his homework right?