[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Another name you may start hearing is Dan Bylsma.

Way down my list. Someone mentioned Trotz, but he's gone down in my books since he left Nashville. He had the rep of getting a lot out of a less talented but crew, but he hasn't done well with a talented team at least in the POs.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Wow.. Brent Sutter and Treliving look alike. I thought that was Treliving for a second in that pic.

I don't see it at all

[CroFlames]

So in the last coach voting poll, Gulutzan got 1 vote and became HC.

In this vote, Peters has 6 votes compared to Darryl (130) and Coach V (198).

Peters becomes coach and we waste another two seasons.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

New age hockey has passed Trotz by. He was a great coach for getting a mediocre roster to play to its fullest, but seemingly can't make a good roster better than the sum of its parts.

205-89-34 in his last 4 seasons.

Game has passed him by?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

205-89-34 in his last 4 seasons.

Game has passed him by?

He's had pretty stacked teams. That said, it's the POs that mainly affect my perception. In fairness, he's run into Sid and co a few times.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

New age hockey has passed Trotz by. He was a great coach for getting a mediocre roster to play to its fullest, but seemingly can't make a good roster better than the sum of its parts.

He's done nothing but win three division titles (in four years) and advanced his team to the second round each year he's been in Washington.....if that is the game passing you by then what does that say about 90% of the rest of the coaches in the league?

If he's available in the coming days, the Flames would be idiotic not to go after him. Hard. He would instantly transform this franchise.

[Ashasx]

The only coach who may employ a more boring system than Gulutzan is Tippett. I have a strong distaste for what he does to hockey teams.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

He's done nothing but win three division titles (in four years) and advanced his team to the second round each year he's been in Washington.....if that is the game passing you by then what does that say about 90% of the rest of the coaches in the league?

The Capitals have had a great roster for a long time now.

Of course with that said, they didn't have playoff success before him either. Their playoff results have just looked exceptionally poor under him.

[liamenator]

Todd Reirden. BT should have hired him over Gulutzan (Friedman mentioned, back then, that Reirden was a finalist)

[Red]

Originally Posted by Table 5

That's at least the one thing I like about Peters over Gultuzan, despite their other similarities. The guy does seem to have much more presence in terms of personality, and I always felt that this team needed a strong leader behind the bench since it didn't appear to be coming from the players.

So true, such a soft personality. I especially disliked his constant excuses for losing games. Tought schedule, can't win them all etc. It's as if he was expecting these losses.

A good coach expects a win every night.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Another name you may start hearing is Dan Bylsma.

Hope not. He was a disaster in Buffalo and the longer his tenure with the Penguins went the worse his decision making and coaching looked. I would rather have Peters than Blysma.

[Huntingwhale]

Voted for AV. I love the body of work he has done. He took Vancouver to contender status and sustained it for a long time. Same with NY. I think he's an elite coach and exactly what the Flames need.

Sutter would be my 2nd choice. I'm a big concerned that we don't have the personnel to play his grind 'em style like LA did. But he would command immediate respect and the days of the Flames being pushovers and soft would be done.

Either hire I'd be happy with, but AV is my first choice.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The Capitals have had a great roster for a long time now.

Of course with that said, they didn't have playoff success before him either. Their playoff results have just looked exceptionally poor under him.

Losing in the second round three times in a row (game 7 twice) of the playoffs is hardly exceptionally poor. Especially considering the team that has beaten them twice, the Penguins, has gone on to win the cup both times.

Exceptionally poor is what we just saw in Calgary under Gulutzan with an above average roster.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Another name you may start hearing is Dan Bylsma.

Why?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He's had pretty stacked teams. That said, it's the POs that mainly affect my perception. In fairness, he's run into Sid and co a few times.

Is there a successful team recently that didnt have a "stacked" roster though? And more than that, a great roster who were playing well at the right time of the year to win it all.

I mean, it's just weird to me that fans judge coaches negatively when they have good teams and get good results.

As for playoff success, yeah I get it, but you mentioned Pittsburgh. Hard to pin that on coaching is it not? Does Sullivan get no kudos for winning back to back because he has a great roster?

Quenneville/AV are another guy that everyone salivates over if he was to be available...he just missed the playoffs. But because he had great rosters previously, he was the best in the business and would be welcome just about anywhere.

Really not singling you out as this is a common thing to see. I'm just not sure that the same criteria are applied equally to each candidate.

It's all good though as people can have faves for whatever reason they want obviously. I'm a big Barry Trotz fan and think he would be tremendous for this particular team.

[Red]

Washington is just like the Flames in the good old days. Great team, but not good enough to beat the even better Oilers. Can't blame the coaches for running in to a dynasty type team.

[Otto-matic]

BT Hires AV. AV picks GG as an assistant.

CP is happy but angry at the same time.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by liamenator

Todd Reirden. BT should have hired him over Gulutzan (Friedman mentioned, back then, that Reirden was a finalist)

I heard the Caps no longer allow him to interview. Sounds like he could be their next head coach.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Is there a successful team recently that didnt have a "stacked" roster though? And more than that, a great roster who were playing well at the right time of the year to win it all.

I mean, it's just weird to me that fans judge coaches negatively when they have good teams and get good results.

As for playoff success, yeah I get it, but you mentioned Pittsburgh. Hard to pin that on coaching is it not? Does Sullivan get no kudos for winning back to back because he has a great roster?

Quenneville/AV are another guy that everyone salivates over if he was to be available...he just missed the playoffs. But because he had great rosters previously, he was the best in the business and would be welcome just about anywhere.

Really not singling you out as this is a common thing to see. I'm just not sure that the same criteria are applied equally to each candidate.

It's all good though as people can have faves for whatever reason they want obviously. I'm a big Barry Trotz fan and think he would be tremendous for this particular team.

I don't necessarily disagree, and I would probably happy if Trotz is the guy, but one thing that I look at is how a team performs before a coach's arrival, and then after he has moved on. The Predators have definitely taken a step forward in the post-Trotz era—his last two seasons they were out of the playoffs, and then under Laviolette had a series loss, then won a round, then won the Western Conference, and now are a Cup favourite.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Why?

Just something that has was mentioned to me is all.

Nothing in stone, just a name that we may start hearing attached to the team.