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View Poll Results: Who do you want as the Flames' new coach
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Darryl Sutter
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232 |
27.59% |
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Alain Vigneault
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395 |
46.97% |
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Barry Trotz
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72 |
8.56% |
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Bill Peters
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31 |
3.69% |
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Lindy Ruff
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16 |
1.90% |
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Dallas Eakins
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16 |
1.90% |
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Sheldon Keefe
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6 |
0.71% |
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Dave Tippett
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30 |
3.57% |
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Someone else...
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43 |
5.11% |
04-18-2018, 07:19 AM
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#2321
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
President's trophy contending teams win the Cup most years. Teams with 105 points or more.
Lower seeded teams don't win very often.
What Sutter did in LA was abnormal.
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You are basically arguing that Sutter is a bad coach because his teams succeeded despite your expectations. That is rather nonsensical to me. In his last eight seasons as a coach, Sutter's teams won a division title, reached the final three times and won the Cup twice. If you're looking for an experienced coach with a pedigree, there's almost nobody better available.
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04-18-2018, 07:21 AM
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#2322
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I don't think the roster is a Sutter type of team. Might be a round hole-square peg type of situation. However, he is a great motivator and gets every ounce from every player and that is something this team certainly needs.
AV, Tippett (although unlikely) and Trotz would all likely command the respect of the players. In the past, they've all had high energy, skill focused teams which is what I hope the next coach brings.
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04-18-2018, 07:30 AM
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#2323
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AltaGuy has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000.
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I want AV so bad. I give a big no to Peters. Sutter seems like an odd choice given past history here but I could live with it. If it’s Peters, I think my trust in Treliving is done.
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04-18-2018, 07:41 AM
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#2324
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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I think AV is a tremendous coach in many ways, but I did not like how he either tolerated or encouraged all the diving in Vancouver.
I think Sutter would bring the right identity back.
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04-18-2018, 07:45 AM
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#2325
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
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How can Trotz be on the list without knowing he will be available? I vote Sutter.
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04-18-2018, 07:54 AM
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#2326
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Duhatschek suggests four potential candidates, but two of them are still employed: https://theathletic.com/318866/2018/...of-the-flames/
I don't have a subscription to The Athletic, and it cuts off just after he mentions Peters. Anyone with a subscription want to post the other three names?
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04-18-2018, 07:55 AM
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#2327
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
Duhatschek suggests four potential candidates, but two of them are still employed: https://theathletic.com/318866/2018/...of-the-flames/
I don't have a subscription to The Athletic, and it cuts off just after he mentions Peters. Anyone with a subscription want to post the other three names? |
Trotz, Tippet and Vigneault.
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04-18-2018, 07:56 AM
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#2328
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Duhatschek suggests four potential candidates, but two of them are still employed: https://theathletic.com/318866/2018/...of-the-flames/
I don't have a subscription to The Athletic, and it cuts off just after he mentions Peters. Anyone with a subscription want to post the other three names? |
Peters
Trotz
Tippett
AV
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04-18-2018, 07:58 AM
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#2329
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The reason I like Sutter or AV is because this team isnt a bunch of babies anymore.
They know the Xs and Os and where to be and what to do.
They dont need a teacher, they need a General.
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04-18-2018, 08:01 AM
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#2330
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
Peters
Trotz
Tippett
AV
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Insiders like Him aren't mentioning Sutter much. I think he's not interested.
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04-18-2018, 08:01 AM
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#2331
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Originally Posted by tfi racing
And what an awesome job he did as GM,built the foundation for this team that since his departure till this day contends for the Stanley Cup. Great idea,let's bring that guy back to ensure the Flame's championship legacy continues...
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I think you missed the point.
People are saying that Tre won’t hire Tippett because of the political manoeuvring in Arizona to try to become GM, which threatened the GM
Then people are talking about Darryl as a viable candidate, when Darryl started in Calgary as coach and then in fact moved in to a dual role, taking over as GM ... which is what people are saying rules out Tippett
Does that make sense now?
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04-18-2018, 08:02 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
I think you missed the point.
People are saying that Tre won’t hire Tippett because of the political manoeuvring in Arizona to try to become GM, which threatened the GM
Then people are talking about Darryl as a viable candidate, when Darryl started in Calgary as coach and then in fact moved in to a dual role, taking over as GM ... which is what people are saying rules out Tippett
Does that make sense now?
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Except Darryl didn't do that in his last stop, where he was most successful. He ain't dumb.
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04-18-2018, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Except Darryl didn't do that in his last stop, where he was most successful. He ain't dumb.
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Big deal. It wasn’t a terribly serious comment. You don’t see the irony?
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04-18-2018, 08:05 AM
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#2334
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Kudos to the mod who added Eakins, something for the trolls and Oiler fans to choose
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I hadn't planned on it but now that you mention it.....
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04-18-2018, 08:06 AM
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#2335
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Locke
They dont need a teacher, they need a General.
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That's at least the one thing I like about Peters over Gultuzan, despite their other similarities. The guy does seem to have much more presence in terms of personality, and I always felt that this team needed a strong leader behind the bench since it didn't appear to be coming from the players.
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04-18-2018, 08:09 AM
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#2336
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Table 5
That's at least the one thing I like about Peters over Gultuzan, despite their other similarities. The guy does seem to have much more presence in terms of personality, and perhaps can be the leader that this team needs.
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I would agree with that.
After all the exit interviews what this team is lacking is fire. Chuckie and Gio are the only ones who really 'bring it.'
We're not a rebuilding team of kids anymore, somebody's gotta bring the fire.
The last two seasons just kind of felt...passionless. Just going through the motions. Thats not good enough.
This is sports, its all about passion and this team had all of the intensity of dead fish.
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04-18-2018, 08:10 AM
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#2337
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Draft Pick
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what about berry trotz ? i don't see the caps hanging on to him unless they win the cup which doesn't seem likely at this point..
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04-18-2018, 08:11 AM
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#2338
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Wow.. Brent Sutter and Treliving look alike. I thought that was Treliving for a second in that pic.
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04-18-2018, 08:12 AM
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#2339
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Fearmongerer
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Another name you may start hearing is Dan Bylsma.
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04-18-2018, 08:12 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by supernam131
what about berry trotz ? i don't see the caps hanging on to him unless they win the cup which doesn't seem likely at this point..
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New age hockey has passed Trotz by. He was a great coach for getting a mediocre roster to play to its fullest, but seemingly can't make a good roster better than the sum of its parts.
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