04-07-2018, 10:03 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Getting AV here would be for me, Trelivings yearly home run swing in the off season. The biggest add to push the team higher. This is the #1 FA signing the Flames need. More than Tavares, more than anything else.
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04-07-2018, 10:03 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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No thanks to AV. Everything I've read points to him having terrible deployment strategies and zero defensive structure. Not only that, but he's stubborn too. Ringing any bells?
It would be the same people on this board complaining about all of the same issues, just with a different target behind the bench.
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04-07-2018, 10:03 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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AV is going to be in no rush to sign with a new team until playoffs are over considering he is guaranteed $4 million a year right now to do nothing. The only way I see flames signing him by next week is if they offer him $6million a year.
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04-07-2018, 10:04 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowlord
AV loves his vets. Make way for minutes for Tanner Glass, Bartkowski and Brouwer at the bottom end of our depth chatt.
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A 23 man roster should not employ Glass, Bartkowski, or Brouwer. That is on management.
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04-07-2018, 10:04 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
I've thought that myself but is Trotz better than AV? Never been out of the 2nd round of the playoffs
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I think AV is a little better. Trotz is good but the Preds have done better under new coaching. He's been a bit hit and miss in Washington.
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04-07-2018, 10:05 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Does anyone have input on how AV would do with a guy like Bennett? Does he bring the best out of some players, or just lean on vets/favorites?
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04-07-2018, 10:05 PM
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#67
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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If the Flames aren't offering AV a job then Treliving or whoever is calling those shots needs to go (cheap ownership?).
I don't doubt other teams would be courting him but if it's like the Boudreau situation where Calgary doesn't even make a pitch... that would be the last straw for me.
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04-07-2018, 10:06 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
No thanks to AV. Everything I've read points to him having terrible deployment strategies and zero defensive structure. Not only that, but he's stubborn too. Ringing any bells?
It would be the same people on this board complaining about all of the same issues, just with a different target behind the bench.
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Almost every team's fans complain about deployment. And no, the lack of defensive structure doesn't sound familiar. Unless you are talking Hartley. I prefer stubborn to knee jerk.
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04-07-2018, 10:07 PM
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#69
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
Really didn't think they would let AV go. That said Tre best be calling and owners best be poneying up $4 + million. ( not convinced owners would pay this for a coach)
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The writing was on the wall when the Rangers proclaimed they were in rebuilding mode, and AV stubbornly prefers vets, so the two are moving in different philosophical directions.
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04-07-2018, 10:08 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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As long as the only "vets" on the team are Gio and backlund, we good.
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04-07-2018, 10:09 PM
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#71
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Iggy-ville
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He’d be a great fit here, always thought of him as a good defensive coach and motivator.
The thing to guard against is that a guy with his experience and profile takes the job to pad his own resume or bank account. I think we saw a bit of that with Keenan. He was good but not great. Did not bring his A game to the Flames. When faced with adversity (injuries), his system crumbled.
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04-07-2018, 10:13 PM
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#72
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First Line Centre
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I’ll bet Treliving has already called AV
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04-07-2018, 10:14 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Brad had better be on the phone as soon as this game ends.
But, knowing our luck we’re in for year 3 of GG.
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04-07-2018, 10:15 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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AV seems like he fits the mold of a players coach that this team claims they want but he has the results so likely could be a much better fit for the group. If the Flames can get him I am very comfortable in that decision moving forward even if it means not waiting for other potential confidantes to emerge after the playoffs.
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04-07-2018, 10:21 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Originally Posted by Anduril
Not that I'm not hoping for a coach of AB's calibre to come to the Flames, but some people are going to experience some déjà vu if AV comes into the season and has some guy like Hathaway or Lazar playing 18 minutes a night because he has his favorites.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowlord
AV loves his vets. Make way for minutes for Tanner Glass, Bartkowski and Brouwer at the bottom end of our depth chatt.
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Can you provide some examples? I've just browsed the TOI/G reports for a bunch of seasons, and nothing jumps out to me as unusual...
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04-07-2018, 10:22 PM
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#76
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Ya, because the Flames will have no chance at the playoffs next year.  Get outta here... |
I was more referring to the other Albertan team.
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04-07-2018, 10:25 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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I have a question for posters ... do you think ownership would pay $4-5 million a year for a coach?
Some posters brought this up weeks ago and it really got me thinking that ownership has a budget for a coaching staff.
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04-07-2018, 10:25 PM
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#78
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by Mike F
Can you provide some examples? I've just browsed the TOI/G reports for a bunch of seasons, and nothing jumps out to me as unusual... |
I seem to remember him riding his skilled players heavily in Vancouver. But thats just my memory/eye test.
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04-07-2018, 10:28 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
I have a question for posters ... do you think ownership would pay $4-5 million a year for a coach?
Some posters brought this up weeks ago and it really got me thinking that ownership has a budget for a coaching staff.
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Ownership pays more than that for Troy f’in Brouwer for God’s sake. If money is the issue here this team deserves to stay in the toilet.
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04-07-2018, 10:30 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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NM wrong thread....
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