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Joborule · 03-02-2018, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Yes. Doubling down on this D group was a mistake.

As we were discussing in the GT, I would trade both Brodie and Hamilton, and have our defensive prospects make the jump. Don't think that the D core could do much worse as long as goaltending is competent. If the offense, and more importantly the style of play is more up tempo and attacking next season, could actually do better.

Jeff Lebowski · 03-02-2018, 10:06 PM

Treliving has turned this into a slow forward group. Nothing on the farm to change this.

Gulutzan system/tactics have not allowed this team to take a step. They both should be held accountable

browna · 03-02-2018, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Gillies made a number of massive saves on how many breakaways/2 on 1s we gave up tonight?

Not surprisingly, those odd man chances were after he let in a soft 1st goal and below average second goal.

The team then has zero confidence in that he's going to make the next save and starts to panic and press and get out of the weak structure and confidence they did have.

The timing of the very average goals against, late in the first in a weak fake against Gillies in Dallas turned the game around, along with him using the rim around on the second goal,are killer, as they were tonight.

Rittich getting beaten cleanly twice after the Flames up 2-0. Again, it then had the rest of the team worried about every next half chance COL had, a feeling they don't have with Smith bailing them out and making the average and above average saves night in and night out. Colorado had full confidence as the Flames get out of sorts trying not to force their goalie to make saves. And then tonight, they fall apart after the missed Backlund chance turns into a so so goal.against Gillies, and that was thst.

With no confidence in the coach to do or say any thing, the team drifts off but it sttarts these last games with below average goals going in.

Sainters7 · 03-02-2018, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by New Era

Come on, this is a team that is ready to break out! The advanced stats are screaming that.

Moral of the story? You can't judge a hockey team with a spreadsheet.

I hate this recent obsession in pro sports with advanced stats so much. Thanks for sucking the fun out of sports, Billy Beane.

DomeFoam · 03-02-2018, 10:07 PM

When you really think about the price paid for Hamonic you're talking a potential cornerstone player in the top 15, and 2 solid players like an Andersson or Fox, and mind you this is a deep draft so who knows what lies in that 2nd round. I love Hamonic, but we got absolutely fleeced on this trade and Trelivings decisions in terms of this trade, the Brouwer signing and the Gulutzan hiring among others make this guy look a lot less competent than we thought.

Otto-matic · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

This team had all they hype the 09-10 Flames did when they got Bouwmeester. "Best D on paper" "Watch out for the Flames" Exact same season pretty much as the 17-18 Flames.

dino7c · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

I gave mine away tonight - I'll be lucky if I can give the rest away after tonight.

I have young kids who would be ecstatic to check out a game

nik- · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joborule

As we were discussing in the GT, I would trade both Brodie and Hamilton, and have our defensive prospects make the jump. Don't think that the D core could do much worse as long as goaltending is competent. If the offense, and more importantly the style of play is more up tempo and attacking next season, could actually do better.

Don't trade anyone until Gulatzan is gone. Give a real coach a chance to work with these players first before we make more Greg Gilbert mistakes.

monkeyman · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

I gave mine away tonight - I'll be lucky if I can give the rest away after tonight.

Reminds me of the old joke.
I had two tickets to a Flames game on the dashboard of my car. Someone smashed my windshield and left two more.

Ashasx · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

Vegas fans enjoying a season from the Golden Knights that the Calgary Flames haven't replicated in 25 years.

dammage79 · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

Put this in the gully thread, may as well go here too.

NSFW!

VANFLAMESFAN · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Yeah unless they want Sutter and he can implement his game into this roster for the final 15 games of the season. I'd wait until April to fire GG.

I think if ownership and management really wanted Darryl back, it would have happened earlier in the season.

I don't see it happening.

Calgary4LIfe · 03-02-2018, 10:08 PM

Silver lining tonight...

Didn't allow an empty net goal against.

Some players were ok tonight - I mean, you have to work to put up those many shots.

Problem is that too few of them were actually really dangerous. Flames are great at generating low percentage shots that goalies see a mile away.

Not much to be happy with tonight. This was a great opportunity to keep pace with the rest of the conference that is fighting for a playoff spot, but instead they not only couldn't generate enough offensively, they couldn't defend either.

They aren't just shooting themselves in the foot in this playoff race losing these winnable games. Tonight, it feels like they just shot their foot right off. Colorado is in the last wildcard spot up by two points, and has two games in hand. Every single team higher in the standings has games in hand on the Flames.

Tough game up next against the Pens, then two 'easy' games against the Sabres and Sens. Islanders after that, then the Oilers followed up with the Sharks.

That's not a horrible schedule, but so was this last segment of games and they lost 3 in a row.

Psytic · 03-02-2018, 10:09 PM

Not another nickel of mine will go to this team till we get a new coach and a more exciting system. Its not even entertaining any more.

Moneyhands23 · 03-02-2018, 10:09 PM

Team doesnt deserve a new arena

zamler · 03-02-2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Firing now makes no sense unless you are really set on a guy for now and future.

Yes it does. The sooner you get the stink of the head coach out of the organization the better. Plus the team might actually become fun to watch.

DynamRyan · 03-02-2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto-matic

This team had all they hype the 09-10 Flames did when they got Bouwmeester. "Best D on paper" "Watch out for the Flames" Exact same season pretty much as the 17-18 Flames.

It is soul-crushingly awful they are repeating the exact same mistakes. Screw you, Flames. Build a ####ing winning team, for ####ing once. ####ing pathetic.

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Infinit47 · 03-02-2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty2hotty

I'd honestly let Conroy stand behind the bench knowing that it's only temporary.

Like you said, it's only 16 games. Couldn't hurt at this point.

Let Gio do it. Go full player/coach.

drewtastic · 03-02-2018, 10:09 PM

FYP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdR6u0BVl54

Ashasx · 03-02-2018, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zamler

Yes it does. The sooner you get the stink of the head coach out of the organization the better. Plus the team might actually become fun to watch.

Personally I would like to see what this team looks like without a coach behind the bench. Can't be any worse than what we have now.