In today’s news, a student faces arrest and expulsion after bringing guns to Palm Beach Lakes High school.
Same thing happened here in Scottsdale. Kid told someone he had a gun in his car, and that someone dropped a dime. Kid now faces a felony for bringing a weapon onto school property.
On the whole issue, it continues to be baffling how this issue does not get resolved. As a gun owner and enthusiast I still do not see the problem with restrictions on weapons, much more stringent background checks, or longer waiting periods. Make buying a gun the same process one has to go through to acquire a restricted weapon, including paying the $200 tax stamp. You want a gun, that should be the process.
The idea of arming teachers and students is just downright stupid. Flat earth stupid. Trust me, you do not want teachers with guns. Teachers make postal workers the picture of calm and reserved. Teachers are under incredible stress and arming them would be a bad thing. The smart thing to do is to continue training the faculty and students and how to handle an active shooter situation on campus. The Run, Hide, Fight strategy is the best and saves lives. This should be the only strategy schools should employ.
One last point, and I make this when speaking to students about active shooter scenarios. To all of you gun nuts who think more weapons will improve things, this is just wrong. In an active shooter the police are brining in the tactical team, and they are going to be looking for anyone they consider a threat. They are not going to differentiate between people who have guns. If they see someone who has a weapon they are going to be putting that person down with extreme prejudice. So anyone who is dumb enough to pull a weapon and try to enter the fray in hopes of stopping a shooter, all you have done is put yourself in greater danger. You become not only a target of the shooter, but also of the police. Dumb idea. The best strategy is to RUN away from the source of danger. If you are unsure of where to go, HIDE with others in a room with a lockable door. If the shooter comes into the room, FIGHT. Everyone swarm the shooter. He may get one or two shots off, but the majority will survive and put the assailant down and end the event.
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A grandmother in Washington state is being credited with reporting her own grandson for planning a school shooting. The teen was arrested the same day as a former student killed 17 people in a shooting at a Florida school.
“What I’m reporting is I’m finding journal entries from my grandson,” Catherine O’Connor told the operator. “And he’s planning on having a mass shooting at one of the high schools.”
“I need to make this shooting/bombing ... infamous," the student wrote, according to the court documents. "I need to get the biggest fatality number I possibly can. I need to make this count. ... I'm learning from past shooters/bombers mistakes, so I don't make the same ones."
That goes along with my belief that the number one motivator for all these shooters is the fame and attention. And now they are seeing that they really need to up the death toll to get more attention. I really wish there was a way to scale down the coverage of these events. At least ban the release of the person's name and picture. They do that with suicides, and mass shootings seem to be even more contagious.
That goes along with my belief that the number one motivator for all these shooters is the fame and attention. And now they are seeing that they really need to up the death toll to get more attention. I really wish there was a way to scale down the coverage of these events. At least ban the release of the person's name and picture. They do that with suicides, and mass shootings seem to be even more contagious.
I don't know if I agree with "number 1 motivator" but I'm sure the fame they receive is part of it.
I thought Canadian news outlets did a fantastic job of covering the attack on Parliament, focusing on events, victim, accuracy, etc. Nary a mention of the perp.
Enter US news media, and all you see is references to the shooter, his past, his picture, all while showing archive footage of Al Quaeda fighters training on monkey bars in the background. The Muslims are coming!
For such a powerful country, they sure are a lot of pussies there.
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Quite an AMA underway on Reddit from a student who was in a room where 2 of his classmates were killed.
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I was in the corner that is immediately to the right of the entrance, Nick was in the back right corner that could be immediately seen from the entrance. The group with Nick and Helena were trying to form a barricade with a cabinet and a computer cart (one that holds laptops and charges them) but without even 20 seconds to react, the shooter comes to our door and starts shooting through the window of the door. He was shooting at the corner that Nick and Helena were in as well as about 12 other students with them in that corner. Nick got caught in the fire and died immediately, Helena also got caught and was shot twice in her chest, she died within seconds but was gasping for air before she died.
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I have many US friends, some who think guns and Trump are good.
Here are a few comments:
The thread started by a friend who was in the military and wants guns banned:
Assault is defined as, "a threat of imminent or offensive contact with a person, or a threat to do so." Anyone guilty of assault we deem to be a criminal. So then why are assault WEAPONS not illegal?
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Because if I attacked you with a hammer that then becomes an assault hammer and would then have to be banned.
No the AR15 was not 'designed' to kill and kill a lot and you (being ex military) should know that
AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic — a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934.
so just for my info as an outsider, what would the actual purpose of owning an AR-15 rifle be for the average household? Target shooting. Hunting.
These rifles are used for many different types of hunting, from varmint to big game. And they’re used for target shooting in the national matches.AR-15-style rifles are no more powerful than other hunting rifles of the same caliber and in most cases are chambered in calibers less powerful than common big-game hunting cartridges like the 30-06 Springfield and .300 Win. Mag.
The AR-15 is not an assault rifle. An Assault Rifle, by definition, has a selective fire switch than can toggle between semi-automatic, a three round burst, or full automatic fire. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault%20rifle
Maybe they should make a semi-automatic hammer....
Let me make myself clear, I am absolutely not defending anything concerning guns of any kind. I just think we should call them what they are if we're going to have a conversation about them. AR 15 isn't an assault rifle. We shouldn't label it as such. I am in favour of tighter regulations, but not an all out ban. I have seen what an all out ban on guns do to a country.
I have seen what an all out ban on guns do to a country.
Should ask him what he means by that. South Korea? Seems to be going okay.
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Who gives a hot hell if you call them murder sticks, assault rifles, high powered rifles, or tiny penis compensators? It’s always semantics with these guys.
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Should ask him what he means by that. South Korea? Seems to be going okay.
Nope not Korea, and based on nationality I would think Mexico, but that doesnt seem right LOL. I tend to just get a headache arguing/discussing because they simply do not budge from their stance. Its like banging your head against the wall..just too much pain.
Who gives a hot hell if you call them murder sticks, assault rifles, high powered rifles, or tiny penis compensators? It’s always semantics with these guys.
If the groups working for more gun control came to the table with facts and not hyperbole and fearmongering based off incorrect assumptions, a lot more people would probably be receptive to their message.
It’s easy to find cases of law makers spouting off in the media, pushing their latest great idea and not having a single clue what they are talking about. If you’re going to say that barrel shrouds are dangerous and need restrictions, then reference the movie Predator, you probably don’t have enough knowledge to try and make gun laws.
Here’s an article comparing the difference between US and Canadian gun laws and how much effect our laws might have had on these shootings.
Think they show just how effective just regulating the people buying the guns can work as opposed to a blanket ban on a certain model or models of guns.
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Here’s an article comparing the difference between US and Canadian gun laws and how much effect our laws might have had on these shootings.
Think they show just how effective just regulating the people buying the guns can work as opposed to a blanket ban on a certain model or models of guns.
Get your hyperbole and fear-mongering out of here!
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Taiwan has a gun ban, is ridiculously safe and, while the ban has existed, has transitioned peacefully from a military dictatorship to a fully functioning democracy that has undergone multiple, peaceful changes in power from one political party to another.
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If the groups working for more gun control came to the table with facts and not hyperbole and fearmongering based off incorrect assumptions, a lot more people would probably be receptive to their message.
This is always my favorite response. "there's no research to show gun control works". Well gee, I f%$*&$g wonder why?!?!?!?!
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In 1996, the Republican-majority Congress threatened to strip funding from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention unless it stopped funding research into firearm injuries and deaths. The National Rifle Association accused the CDC of promoting gun control. As a result, the CDC stopped funding gun-control research — which had a chilling effect far beyond the agency, drying up money for almost all public health studies of the issue nationwide.
If the groups working for more gun control came to the table with facts and not hyperbole and fearmongering based off incorrect assumptions, a lot more people would probably be receptive to their message. s.
A comparison of USA gun proliferation/violence versus other comparable First World economies.
