2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[iamca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLS4YrQq6M

Cap hit too low, still developing, really young, and reminds me of a over zealous group wanting to run a young Backlund out of town.

[transplant99]

Would people balk at a Bennett for Brassard deal?

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Would people balk at a Bennett for Brassard deal?

I would do it. With Backlund not signed to an extension Flames need a 2nd line center for next year. Can move Backlund for picks/prospects.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

3 years ago. Steady decline since. I would rather hold on and see if he can work his game out.

I keep hearing about a steady decline with domi from posters. Do these posters realize that Domi missed significant time and only played 59 games in his 2nd season? He was actually on pace for another 50 + point season that year. This year has been his bad year. I would say he is having a bad year before saying he is declining every year. Declining every year is what Bennett is doing.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Maybe I’ll get ripped for this, but sometimes I think all you need is one game to see what the type of ability a player possesses. Things like their skating stride, agility, the way they protect the puck, the way they turn and pivot, hockey sense, vision. There’s a lot of things you can see in one game. I remember watching guys like Gio, or Johnny, or Subban, or Nylander, Ehlers, Boeser and etc. You watch them once and you know they have IT.

Well, since 4 out of 6 of those players were not top picks, you need to either accept that players may get it over time, develop their skills, grow their game, etc. Therefore, making snap judgements a very poor way to evaluate. Or I suppose the other option is that you are the brightest GD hockey mind to ever walk the earth and could be the GM and president of any team if only they were able to pay you enough to pry you away from the think tank for hockey savantism.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

He is not eligible to play this season. As an RFA, deadline to sign him was December 1st.

Thanks sure loss.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by TOfan

What would you think fans in Arizona would have to say about Bennett?

Domi has a 52 point season under his belt.

Now I am going to go out in a limb here because I ever watch Arizona but I am going to guess Domi has some better opportunities for offense than Sam does with the flames when it comes to zone starts, power play time etc.

I could be wrong because, like I said, I don’t watch them.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

Now I am going to go out in a limb here because I ever watch Arizona but I am going to guess Domi has some better opportunities for offense than Sam does with the flames when it comes to zone starts, power play time etc.

I could be wrong because, like I said, I don’t watch them.

Domi ~ oZN Starts %: 55.7 17/18 ~ Career average %: 54.1
Domi ~ CF% 48.6 17/18 ~ Career average %: 47.0

Bennett ~ oZN Starts %: 55.9 17/18 ~ Career average %: 55.6
Bennett ~ CF% 48.8 17/18 ~ Career average %: 48.9

Bennett has the slight edge in offensive zone starts and a slight better CF % over his career but I have to think looking at Domi ~ the guy prides himself in being an energy type player when he's going; much like Bennett but look at the crowd and environment he gets for 41 games out of the year. I think he would elevate his game in a hockey city like Calgary much like his Dad did in Toronto.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Would people balk at a Bennett for Brassard deal?

This a test? You working pr for flames? Lol

I for one think Bennett is going to ask for a trade this summer, so something is going to have to come back.

Getting a pick for him would be a 2nd at best. Hard pass.

Go the route of trading for another player that needs a "grass is greener" approach . Probably.

Trade him for a vet like Brasard.? I would pass unless there was some plan to trade Backlund for some young up coming top 6 forward.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

In sickness and in health, the flames are married to Bennett for at least this season and next. Never thought I'd see a lynch mob for a 21 year old player. This is insane. Brouwer starts playing better of late so gotta go kick the next dog that's down. Bennetts cap hit is low enough to allow him to struggle for the duration. suck it up kids, we're gonna be seeing Benny around for a while.

How do you figure the Flames are married to Bennett? He just signed a two year bridge deal. I'd say both the Flames and Bennett have one foot out the door.

That said, I can see where you are coming from. My view is the Flames need to either provide him with better support or move on for the sake of the team & the player. I don't see the Flames heading into next season without addressing this one way or the other.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

This a test? You working pr for flames? Lol

I for one think Bennett is going to ask for a trade this summer, so something is going to have to come back.

Getting a pick for him would be a 2nd at best. Hard pass.

Go the route of trading for another player that needs a "grass is greener" approach . Probably.

Trade him for a vet like Brasard.? I would pass unless there was some plan to trade Backlund for some young up coming top 6 forward.

I think you're right here. Something is going to move for Bennett soon I suspect.

Brassard -Bennett doesn't seem to make much sense. Ottawa is likely to get a stronger offer if they want picks. Brassard would get you a first +. I don't see Bennett having that kind of value.

where would brassard fit on the Flames? I guess it depends on what the Flames decide to do with Backlund.

[Vinny01]

I would like to try something around Bennett and Saad. Saad is having a bad year and the Hawks are in cap trouble they save $4M on the cap in a one for one deal. Maybe the Flames add a prospect?

[killer_carlson]

I suspect Bennett's value is much greater than people in this thread are suggesting.

I think opposing teams, doing their research, will see that he's a completely different player when not saddled with Brouwer. He's the classic prospect being buried down the roster waiting to burst out.

I bet there is a lot of interest in Bennett and the Flames would be nuts to trade him for someone else's problem.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would like to try something around Bennett and Saad. Saad is having a bad year and the Hawks are in cap trouble they save $4M on the cap in a one for one deal. Maybe the Flames add a prospect?

The hawks gave up Panarin for Saad less than a year ago. It's going to take a lot more than Bennett.

[savardandjokinen]

I think we get more than 2nd for Bennett. Remember when former 4th overall pick Griffin Reinhart fetched the 16th and 33rd? He wasn't even a regular in the NHL at that point, let alone 3 years into his career. (yes I know it was the Oilers who traded for him, and they're run by lunatics)

[ComixZone]

I think trading Bennett at this stage would be what a bad organization would do in this situation. The fact that we've been spoiled when it comes to player development has clearly coloured people's opinions of the process, and they lack the patience to see it through in favour of demanding results right away.

He's nowhere near as bad as some around here seem to think. Nowhere even close to it.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Just to be clear, you made the comment that Hoffman was a poor target based on watching him for one period. You likely could not have been more wrong, no matter how closely you watched that period.


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Would definitely like more viewings of Hoffman. But for the cost to acquire along with his salary. I wasn’t too impressed with what he brought to the table. Ryan Dzingel though was noticeable on every shift and even managed to score an impressively persistent goal late in the 3rd. I'm just saying, I liked his game much more than Hoffman. But whatever happens happens, im not a scout for the team. They’ve been scouting Ottawa for weeks now and I’m sure they’ve already come to a conclusion on who they like.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Well, since 4 out of 6 of those players were not top picks, you need to either accept that players may get it over time, develop their skills, grow their game, etc. Therefore, making snap judgements a very poor way to evaluate. Or I suppose the other option is that you are the brightest GD hockey mind to ever walk the earth and could be the GM and president of any team if only they were able to pay you enough to pry you away from the think tank for hockey savantism.

I’ve looked into the life of a scout and I’ll tell you what, it doesn’t look too shabby.

[Toonage]

Pro scout? Sure. Amateur scout? Not so much.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

This a test? You working pr for flames? Lol

I for one think Bennett is going to ask for a trade this summer, so something is going to have to come back.

Getting a pick for him would be a 2nd at best. Hard pass.

Go the route of trading for another player that needs a "grass is greener" approach . Probably.

Trade him for a vet like Brasard.? I would pass unless there was some plan to trade Backlund for some young up coming top 6 forward.

Just trying to connect dots.

Dorian has stated that he wants young players back as much as he wants picks.

Backlund isn't re-signed as it stands now. Listening to the Treliving interview yesterday and coming away with the feeling that it is less sure than ever that he is returning. Not because both sides don't want it, but because there doesn't seem to be common ground on the terms of the deal. Dont know if that $$$ or length or a combination of the two.

Bennett likely has some real cache left with GM's who were part of the '14 draft. He was a guy every single one of them would have seen personally or had a very deep book on.

Brassard plays a heavy defensive game and can contribute on the offensive side as well. He has another year on his deal as well which is huge in the "cost control" part of things.

Something like this is a hockey deal as much as it is a cap deal. Something you dont find a lot of any longer. Maybe there needs to be something added from one side or the other to balance it, I dont know because i dont know how much either GM values either player..or to what degree they want to base a deal on. Those are the variables.

Im just getting the feeling that something happens here that is a lot bigger than I thought even a few days ago. The team needs a change as far as consistency goes, they need to get grittier/bigger IMO, and they obviously need to add at least a bit of offense.

Maybe it isnt Sam and maybe the chip is Brodie or Stone possibly, in which case there is more involved than a 1 for 1 swap for sure.