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FlamesAddiction · 02-10-2018, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

Klimchuk has no real trade value. Adding him pushes nothing.

If Ottawa moves Hoffman they will want at least 1 premium piece back. Neither Stone nor Gillies qualifies as a premium piece. With many teams bidding on Hoffman, you are going to win the bidding war by including a Klimchuk on top of some interesting, yet not premium, pieces.

We definitely need a top 6 RW, but I agree the price is going to be steep.

SportsJunky · 02-10-2018, 01:28 PM

Assuming Versteeg, when he returns, is seen as the guy that fills that PP/W hole, I don’t really see a big move taking place. I’d rather not see Stone leave Calgary this season. He has t been great at times but he is just what the doctor ordered come playoff time. Big, strong and a bit nasty.

I’m ok if Treliving sits pat. Maybe a JG Pageau type deal but I do t see a big splash being made.

The Original FFIV · 02-10-2018, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

We definitely need a top 6 RW, but I agree the price is going to be steep.

Unless you buy low on a player. They’ve been trying to run Galchenyuk out of town for a while which hasn’t helped his value.

Remember what we thought when Duclair was moved. We were for the most part shocked at the low price. If the room can absorb a player with perceived (or real) “issues”, might be able to get a steal of a deal.

ComixZone · 02-10-2018, 02:18 PM

Listening to Tree on the Fan right now.

Spoke about Jankowski struggling right now due to the league getting harder. I wonder if we don’t see him sent back to the AHL at some point if he continues to struggle as much as he has.

cral12 · 02-10-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Unless you buy low on a player. They’ve been trying to run Galchenyuk out of town for a while which hasn’t helped his value.

Remember what we thought when Duclair was moved. We were for the most part shocked at the low price. If the room can absorb a player with perceived (or real) “issues”, might be able to get a steal of a deal.

And...Bergevin IS the GM...Treliving can use his Jedi Mind Tricks on him hopefully... : )

dammage79 · 02-10-2018, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Listening to Tree on the Fan right now.

Spoke about Jankowski struggling right now due to the league getting harder. I wonder if we don’t see him sent back to the AHL at some point if he continues to struggle as much as he has.

I was guessing this yesterday. Adding logic to why the Flames have been rumored to be shopping for a center. As much as Janko is proving he can play in the NHL, the first year grind of an NHL season can take a toll. Now that Janko has a feel for what an NHL season feels like, he can go back to dominating the AHL and come back as a confident top nine center depth option.

I am curious if the Flames make more than one trade, getting another proper top nine RHRW and then a 3rd line center.

Stajans been just fine, in fact he's far exceeded my expectations of him just in the past ten games or so. He's actually producing.

Brick · 02-10-2018, 03:10 PM

I wonder if Brodie could be converted to a forward?

Mattman · 02-10-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brick

I wonder if Brodie could be converted to a forward?

Oooor maybe trade him for a forward?

ForeverFlameFan · 02-10-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brick

I wonder if Brodie could be converted to a forward?

Why the heck would we do that??

Brick · 02-10-2018, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Why the heck would we do that??

Because he's sub-optimal on defence.

Maybe he'd be better as a forward.

rhino · 02-10-2018, 04:15 PM

If you don’t want Brodie on defence I am pretty sure the return on trading him for a forward is greater then the return of making him a forward. He already dislikes playing his off side on D now you want to change his position entirely??

jschick88 · 02-10-2018, 04:19 PM

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SeanCharles · 02-10-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Listening to Tree on the Fan right now.

Spoke about Jankowski struggling right now due to the league getting harder. I wonder if we don’t see him sent back to the AHL at some point if he continues to struggle as much as he has.

It would probably help not only Janko but Benny as well to actually have a top 9 winger for them to play with.

I'm not saying they both wouldn't still be struggling to some extent but given they are still finding their ways in the league playing them with 4th line talent in Hathaway or Brouwer is not going to do them any favours.

The hard facts are we have a shortage of top 9 forwards as all of Stajan, Lazar, Lomberg, Hrivik and the 2 mentioned above are all 4th line talents at best. I don't quite think a recovering Versteeg is going to be that either especially considering he was struggling before the injury.

Adding another winger that can help that 3rd line will be huge boost to the team as we are pretty set on defense and in goal.

Roof-Daddy · 02-10-2018, 05:04 PM

I think a couple of lower key additions like Byron and Pageau could really bring some speed, energy and even depth scoring to our bottom two lines.

Byron - Jankowski - Pageau could be a dangerous and defensively responsible 3rd line, but I don't know what you do with Bennett in that case.

Bennett - Jankowski - Pageau
Byron - Lazar - Hathaway

??

I dunno.

BigFlameDog · 02-10-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Racki

I think that there are other organizations that value him more than the Flames. He's been a good soldier and a model citizen but I think that the Flames don't see his value - never have in my opinion.

I think you are completely wrong but I am interested in hearing why you think this.

dino7c · 02-10-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brick

Because he's sub-optimal on defence.

Maybe he'd be better as a forward.

Lol...you can't be serious

jayswin · 02-10-2018, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 868904

Honestly, at that contract, the only thing that makes sense for me, is Zack Smith for a Emile Poirier type prospect and maybe you get the Senators to eat some of the cap hit. I think the Sens should take that a run. Melnyk would be happy to not have to pay Smith's salary.

But if the other team should take a deal and run then why are we doing it?

ComixZone · 02-10-2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanCharles

It would probably help not only Janko but Benny as well to actually have a top 9 winger for them to play with.

I'm not saying they both wouldn't still be struggling to some extent but given they are still finding their ways in the league playing them with 4th line talent in Hathaway or Brouwer is not going to do them any favours.

The hard facts are we have a shortage of top 9 forwards as all of Stajan, Lazar, Lomberg, Hrivik and the 2 mentioned above are all 4th line talents at best. I don't quite think a recovering Versteeg is going to be that either especially considering he was struggling before the injury.

Adding another winger that can help that 3rd line will be huge boost to the team as we are pretty set on defense and in goal.

Agreed. We need to add a player that is better than Bennett and Jankowski to help them raise their games up a level. I don’t think Pageau would be that guy, someone more significant (Pacioretty, Hoffman) fits the bill. They’ll be huge for the development of both Janko and Bennett. Maybe Patches would help even moreso than Hoffman (although I think Hoffman > Patches on-ice).

Smith or Pageau to come in and help the 4th would be beneficial, but the focus has to be on a top end winger for the 3rd.

jayswin · 02-10-2018, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattman

Oooor maybe trade him for a forward?

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Originally Posted by Brick

Because he's sub-optimal on defence.

Maybe he'd be better as a forward.

He's has no shot, that's a deal breaker right there.

SeanCharles · 02-10-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Agreed. We need to add a player that is better than Bennett and Jankowski to help them raise their games up a level. I don’t think Pageau would be that guy, someone more significant (Pacioretty, Hoffman) fits the bill. They’ll be huge for the development of both Janko and Bennett. Maybe Patches would help even moreso than Hoffman (although I think Hoffman > Patches on-ice).

Smith or Pageau to come in and help the 4th would be beneficial, but the focus has to be on a top end winger for the 3rd.

Yea I don't want to bring in a player of Pageau's calibre either, we need players with more offence and PP ability.

The part about the available names out there that frustrates me the most is that most all of the ones worth while are left-handed. I would like at least one legitimate RH shot on our top 3 lines.

None are seemingly available so we may have to settle for another lefty but considering the Flames want a player that is not a rental I hope eventually a guy like Frolik (love him and all) can eventually be replaced by a RH shot. Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Ferland, Backlund, Bennett, Jankowski and the assumed new acquisition all look like they will be here for a while and we have Mangiapane and Dube coming.

It's frustrating and somewhat amusing how on some nights we could have an entire top 9 of left shots and an entire 4th line of right shots. I feel it is unbalanced and may contribute to the many PP issues.