[PGT] Flames 3 Rangers 4

[Racki]

Originally Posted by timbit

Are you suggesting the Flames concede the two points to the Isles based on the Isles and Flames performances tonight?

That’s not how it works.

Ya dummy. That’s exactly what I meant.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by skcli

I am glad that you are not invested emotionally into this team. This should be a easy win game, and they pissed it off. I have to work back to back to back 15 hours day to get my work done as required. Back to back should not be an issue for professional, just saying.

Do you have someone of around the same skill level trying to stop you from getting your work done?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Go check Tampas 3rd line.

Oh and the preds.

The bruins.

The blues...

The leafs..

The jets.

All teams that have players on their 3rd line today flirting with a 50 point pace. The good teams have Backlund and Frolik, good players, on their 3rd line.

Was there a team in the entire league that had 7 forwards with 50 pts last year? Doubtful.

In fact a quick look shows that 94 F's in the entire league had 50 pts or more last year, so an average of 3 per team.

I realize scoring is up this season....but no way good team 3rd liners are at 50 pt paces on any sort of small (forget large) scale.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

LOL at least man up and admit you were wrong. You lack class.

Well that was never up for debate.

[Karl]

And Dallas takes the lead. 3-2 over the Pens.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

This is a 1 line team. They have a top line, a 3rd line, and 2 below average 4th lines.



Please do not trade for any winger this deadline. They are not one guy away from being a good hockey team.

You think that Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik is a 3rd line? I disagree. They pretty much dominate every game as a shutdown AND an offensive line. Every coach’s dream 2nd line.

The Flames 4th line is fine.

They are missing an entire 3rd line. Could legitimately slot Brouwer into the 3rd. So really they’re missing two 3rd liners and they have a pretty complete team.

But I would be interested to hear your argument as to how the Backlund line is a 3rd unit.

[Karl]

Yeah. Bennett has gotta sit a game or two at this point. Just being way too stupid and not good enough.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

They are likely going to miss the playoffs which is what I was getting at.

You’re all over the place saying people are overreacting on Bennet yet you say garbage like this

[Displaced Flames fan]

Garbage thread. Moving on.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by jonkaupp

You’re all over the place saying people are overreacting on Bennet yet you say garbage like this

He's talking about the Avalanche.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by heep223

You think that Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik is a 3rd line? I disagree. They pretty much dominate every game as a shutdown AND an offensive line. Every coach’s dream 2nd line.

The Flames 4th line is fine.

They are missing an entire 3rd line. Could legitimately slot Brouwer into the 3rd. So really they’re missing two 3rd liners and they have a pretty complete team.

But I would be interested to hear your argument as to how the Backlund line is a 3rd unit.

3m line is one of the better second lines in the league. That guys opinion is clearly, at best, one that should never be considered seriously.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by Karl

He's talking about the Avalanche.

My mistake.

[tvp2003]

What about Jankowski? He obviously hasn't been producing offensively (zero points in his last 11 games), but how much of that is because his wingers have been ineffective? I don't think he's been making dumb mistakes or anything -- maybe swap him with Stajan and see if Jankowski might click with the likes of Lazar and Hathaway/Lomberg?

[blender]

It's a ridiculous echo chamber in here right now/lately/after a loss/when the Flames don't dominate/always.

Honestly, I've been here for years and this is the worst I've seen. I don't know what it is but embarrassing is the right word except it is potentially mitigated by the fact that the majority of Flames fans and an even greater majority of hockey fans in general have no idea CP exists, so really we should just be embarrassed about ourselves I suppose.

There are still all sorts of quality contributors here, but the background noise drowns them out.

Everyone who wants to shoot someone into the sun or cheers injuries or is "done" with so-and-so or wants firings can shut the #### up anytime.

We love to rip HF Oil. We should stop throwing stones.

This place is turning into a lame, petty, pointless little corner of the internet.

All the beaters need to take a lap; you all know who you are.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

What about Jankowski? He obviously hasn't been producing offensively (zero points in his last 11 games), but how much of that is because his wingers have been ineffective? I don't think he's been making dumb mistakes or anything -- maybe swap him with Stajan and see if Jankowski might click with the likes of Lazar and Hathaway/Lomberg?

The entire line looks lost. Jankowski isn't driving the play at all and is playing tentatively. Sam is an utter mess, and not doing anything out there. And even when Hathaway is on the line - he's not doing enough.

Part of it could be you have 3 kids playing together I suppose who are prone to more ups and downs.

But they need that line going.

I have to admit I'm as down on Sam as I have ever been. It seems to me that at best he goes on to be a 40-50 point guy - so if you can move him for the scoring winger you need, I'd be open to that.

Ideally I'd be looking for a Al Coates "Something now, something later" deal where they get a winger to help now and maybe recoup a pick or two.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Was there a team in the entire league that had 7 forwards with 50 pts last year? Doubtful.

In fact a quick look shows that 94 F's in the entire league had 50 pts or more last year, so an average of 3 per team.

I realize scoring is up this season....but no way good team 3rd liners are at 50 pt paces on any sort of small (forget large) scale.

Toronto lead the league last year with 6 forwards with 50 or more.

3 teams had 5: Washington, Minnesota, Columbus.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by blender

It's a ridiculous echo chamber in here right now/lately/after a loss/when the Flames don't dominate/always.

Honestly, I've been here for years and this is the worst I've seen. I don't know what it is but embarrassing is the right word except it is potentially mitigated by the fact that the majority of Flames fans and an even greater majority of hockey fans in general have no idea CP exists, so really we should just be embarrassed about ourselves I suppose.

There are still all sorts of quality contributors here, but the background noise drowns them out.

Everyone who wants to shoot someone into the sun or cheers injuries or is "done" with so-and-so or wants firings can shut the #### up anytime.

We love to rip HF Oil. We should stop throwing stones.

This place is turning into a lame, petty, pointless little corner of the internet.

All the beaters need to take a lap; you all know who you are.

Sounds like what you really want is an echo chamber that only reflects back your opinions.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Go check Tampas 3rd line.

Oh and the preds.

The bruins.

The blues...

The leafs..

The jets.

All teams that have players on their 3rd line today flirting with a 50 point pace. The good teams have Backlund and Frolik, good players, on their 3rd line.

Part of what you're saying is true but there are also non 50pt players on the top 2 lines. Looking at your example teams you've listed off last season:

Penguins: ~ Five 50+ pt guys
Blues: ~ Five 50ish + pt guys
Predators: ~ Four 50ish pt guys
Capitals: ~ Six 50ish pt guys

Lots of people are heavily understating the impact of Backlund and to a lesser extent, Tkachuk and their ability to perform as a 2nd line especially with main defensive responsibilities on the team.

Originally Posted by transplant99

Was there a team in the entire league that had 7 forwards with 50 pts last year? Doubtful.

In fact a quick look shows that 94 F's in the entire league had 50 pts or more last year, so an average of 3 per team.

I realize scoring is up this season....but no way good team 3rd liners are at 50 pt paces on any sort of small (forget large) scale.

Not a great way of looking at it as that assumes every team will have the same number of 50+ scorers. The Coyotes are on pace for maybe one 50+ point forward.

[blender]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Sounds like what you really want is an echo chamber that only reflects back your opinions.

I've got no problem with opinions, I'm just sick of bitching and moaning.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Lundquist was great tonight... after Lazar’s goal, where he was tentative and I think misplayed it, and then after that he started playing with an edge.

Flames PK missed Brouwer.

PP was awful. Too many times they took the puck on the half boards and played 3 on 4, while the outside guys didn’t find seams. Also they need to fix the situation where every guy that receives the puck on the PP holds it for a second or two before moving it. Reminds me of the Brent Sutter days.