2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/960549160662388736

And the Nash sweepstakes have officially begun.

[Corral]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I'm not sure about that one. How many ex-NHL players have settled in Edmonton vs Calgary after their careers were over? How many current players live in Calgary vs Edmonton in the off-season that belong to other teams?

I have no idea what those numbers are, but I would be confident in betting my life that Calgary is a more attractive location than Edmonton.

Calgary > Edmonton for sure, as between the two cities. But your kidding yourself if you think living in Alberta is anywhere near a preferable destination for someone with choice on where to reside in Canada/USA.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Corral

Calgary > Edmonton for sure, as between the two cities. But your kidding yourself if you think living in Alberta is anywhere near a preferable destination for someone with choice on where to reside in Canada/USA.

Right... which is what we were NOT discussing.

So Calgary > Edmonton. That is all.

[bubbsy]

i think it will be an interesting deadline for sure.

There's only about 5 teams that are sure fire cup hopefuls in either conference (TB, BOS, WPG, NSH, LV) .

Only 8 teams that are likely ready to call it a season already: (ARZ, EDM, VAN, BUF, OTT, MTL, DET, FLA).

With the remaining 18 teams still holding hope that are either in a playoff spot (not real powerhouses) or are within striking distance of a playoff spot. Unless there is a drastic reduction in playoff hopefuls in the next 3 weeks, my guess is that there will be an arms race within those top 5 teams, and lots of chatter by the 18 mediocre teams, but little gets done given the level of mediocraty and the prices required to get a trade done.

My prediction: 3 of those top teams make a splash by getting in on the big fish in the market (kane, etc). Perhaps half a dozen or so depth dmen or forward moves made by the 18 teams in the middle. A lot of standing pat, and waiting for the offseason for the rest.

[sureLoss]

IMO it is going to be a buyer's market. Especially if you need a LW or left shot winger.

What is holding up the trades is the incredible return Duchene got. The sellers are asking a lot to see if they can get a sucker to pay a big price.

[dammage79]

In those types of conditions, trade deadline day may be the busiest it's been in a couple of years. Selling gls hold.out until the 11th hour and boom.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

IMO it is going to be a buyer's market. Especially if you need a LW or left shot winger.

What is holding up the trades is the incredible return Duchene got. The sellers are asking a lot to see if they can get a sucker to pay a big price.

Maybe Sakic is learning OTJ.

[sureLoss]

Looks like Duhatschek has jumped onto the Flames should look at Grabner wagon.

[ComixZone]

Grabner is what I’d say is your traditional “waste of assets” trade deadline acquisition. He wouldn’t move the needle, and those types of trades rarely (if ever) turn out.

Go big (Hoffman), or just sell minor pieces if you can and try and push with some youth.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i think it will be an interesting deadline for sure.

There's only about 5 teams that are sure fire cup hopefuls in either conference (TB, BOS, WPG, NSH, LV) .

Only 8 teams that are likely ready to call it a season already: (ARZ, EDM, VAN, BUF, OTT, MTL, DET, FLA).

With the remaining 18 teams still holding hope that are either in a playoff spot (not real powerhouses) or are within striking distance of a playoff spot. Unless there is a drastic reduction in playoff hopefuls in the next 3 weeks, my guess is that there will be an arms race within those top 5 teams, and lots of chatter by the 18 mediocre teams, but little gets done given the level of mediocraty and the prices required to get a trade done.

My prediction: 3 of those top teams make a splash by getting in on the big fish in the market (kane, etc). Perhaps half a dozen or so depth dmen or forward moves made by the 18 teams in the middle. A lot of standing pat, and waiting for the offseason for the rest.

Due to Vegas being a new team... and, they likely see much of their success as a product of chemistry ... I don't see them making any significant additions... it doesn't appear TBL has any glaring weaknesses... so BOS, WPG and NSH might be the only teams making a splash.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Grabner is what I’d say is your traditional “waste of assets” trade deadline acquisition. He wouldn’t move the needle, and those types of trades rarely (if ever) turn out.

Go big (Hoffman), or just sell minor pieces if you can and try and push with some youth.

No offense to Hoffman, but if we're dreaming big we might as well wish for Mark Stone

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Grabner is what I’d say is your traditional “waste of assets” trade deadline acquisition. He wouldn’t move the needle, and those types of trades rarely (if ever) turn out.

Go big (Hoffman), or just sell minor pieces if you can and try and push with some youth.

I think it depends on what it takes to acquire him. If all it took was a C type prospect, then sure.

He's a UFA at the end of the year and would be 2nd in goals for the Flames. He's not particularly old and would bring some scoring ability, skill and speed to the 3rd line. You could do much worse than him

[bigrangy]

Grabner would be a good fit because he is a depth guy that can produce offense completely on his own. He doesn't depend on being paired to talented teammates for his production.

[ThaBrink]

If we're making a big acquisition at the deadline (Stone, Hoffman) I'd really like us to sell our extra pieces for whatever we can get. Bartkowski for a 6th, Stajan (If we can get someone to take him) or even Hrivik for a very low draft pick. Anything helps, and you never know if you can get lucky in the draft.

We still have the depth in Stockton to replace injured players. Andersson, Wotherspoon, Mangiapane, and Foo. I just don't see the point in keeping old bubble NHL players. We know what Bartkowski is, same with Hrivik. Why not try and get something back for them if there is a buyer. No matter how little it is. I can't see Bartkowski getting more games in, especially after his absolute garbage game against the Blackhawks.

[Duffalufagus]

There is no leverage this year to make a big trade. We don’t have quality picks or surplus assets to make a trade that will move the needle. Unless you do something drastic and trade Brodie. Which they won’t do.

My guess is they do nothing and retool in the offseason when they can shed some skin and the cap goes up. This team is a coin flip (at best) to make the playoffs and not a serious threat to do any damage if they manage to get in.

Management knows it, and they don’t have any arrows in their quiver to do anything about it this year.

I bet they don’t make any move.

[TheoFleury]

Most I would pay for Grabner is Poirier or Shinkaruk. Dude has 6 ENs this year, his totals are inflated. Like what was said earlier, he wouldn't move the needle so there's no point.

[d_phaneuf]

Ottawa wants to build around stone

More likely anyone else on that team gets moved than him

Nash depending on the price would be a good get

Vanek if he's in thenright situation will help someone, I think Nashville would be a good fit, he's going to be a great consolation for someone who misses out on the tier 1 names

[FlamesAddiction]

What are our biggest trade-bait pieces for potential deadline deals?

- Bennett
- Gillies
- Brodie

Everyone else is pretty much essential or has little value. Those are some decent pieces for a team looking to rebuild or retool.

Not that I am pining for any of those players to be traded. I still think Brodie can rebound under the right coach and Bennett is still young. I only added Gillies because Parsons seems to have taken his spot as our best goalie prospect, not because I don't have faith in him. But you need to give up value to get value.

[Toonage]

Worth reiterating that a few weeks back on the Fan, Boomer suggested that Flames management wants nothing to do with Vanek.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

There is no leverage this year to make a big trade. We don’t have quality picks or surplus assets to make a trade that will move the needle.

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Everyone else is pretty much essential or has little value.

We have a well stocked cupboard of defensive assets that would hold good value.

Whether or not we want to move them and at what cost is a different story, but the assets are there.