[PGT] Flames win in OT!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by activeStick

It sounds like you aren't aware about the racist undertones of the picture selections being one after the other, so I'll give you my take. Take it or leave it, up to you...

Many, many racists like to compare black people to monkeys, which is why your post surprised the people that noticed.

Maybe do away with similar situations in the future where the same misinterpretation could be made...

Hilarious response considering you perpetuate even more disgusting bigotry.

That’s clearly an ape, not a monkey.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

No, they were GIFTED the most lenient expansion draft rules ever, combined with the fact that they were the only expansion team selecting players in the draft.

Go back and look at the garbage all the other expansion teams had to choose from.

Just because the other teams got screwed in the expansion doesn’t mean Vegas should have been.

Not to mention the fact that GMGM was absolutely crucified for his selections in the draft. People had thought he’d blown an opportunity to build a competitive team and had lost his mind by selecting a roster that would go straight to tank mode.

[-TC-]

I’d love a return to the carefree days when we could post gifs without fear of condemnation...

I admit I wasn’t sure they’d recover from the puck hopping over Brodie’s stick but the boys really stepped up.

I’m looking forward to the next game.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

This poopshow of a PGT (after a win no less) is an excellent example of why I have almost stopped posting. Where's the joy, the fun in a win when you read ... this?

My 2 cents on that.

[flameester]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Which team takes a pass?

Sorry forgot Vegas was #31 this year

[Mr.Coffee]

the fact that Monahan has literally been one of the most clutch players in the NHL and is setting records for how clutch he is, and that he's still getting called out by fans just goes to show that there's some fans that nothing will ever be enough.

I'm usually a pretty "negative" poster but I liken it to trying to be more realistic. But the truth is we are very spoiled to have Monahan, and if after a game like last night, if your big problem is Monahan (the guy who scored the OT winning goal?!), then you're probably overlooking other bigger problems haha. Like, Monahan is amazing, and his shot's release is arguably one of the best in the NHL.

He's not flashy, but he has a great mind for the game, positions himself well, and is always open for Gaudreau which is probably tougher than it looks because sometimes Gaudreau can twist himself into some weird positions and can be a little too creative sometimes...

I think the reality of the NHL is that

a) parity is so close that the difference between teams in the playoffs and out is razor thin, so while one might think that a team like Chicago should be an easy win, it isn't and Chicago and Calgary are probably actually really close in terms of talent, skill and abilities and;

b) it really comes down to work ethic on a game-to-game basis outside of the top teams. So when fans see a good team like Calgary losing it's easy to think about those 5-10 (20 sometimes?) minutes of lapses where the team let up the gas a bit and got themselves in more trouble than there should have been

Also think that Brouwer, as annoying as it is seeing him anywhere the powerplay, has been actually fairly okay this season. Not good, but not a clusterF like last season. If you look at all the times throughout this season where he seems to be contributing (not just points), he's actually been a serviceable player. Better than a guy like Stajan, for instance. I don't mind Brouwer on the PK either, it's the PP that annoys me and that's on the coaching.

Lastly, I think fans have a right to bitch about the coaching. As tough as it is to read 'negative' opinions, these coaches have just been the ####s. Their decisions have been straight up bizarre and frequently seem to be overthinking easy ones. It's frustrating because I honestly often don't understand why they're doing what they're doing.

[StAlbertFlame]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

This poopshow of a PGT (after a win no less) is an excellent example of why I have almost stopped posting. Where's the joy, the fun in a win when you read ... this?

My 2 cents on that.

Ditto

[Calgary4LIfe]

This talk about Monahan amazes me. This organization hasn't had a bona fide 1st line center in over 20 years. Now that we have one - a center that is cemented in the top 20 in terms of production - and there are people insisting that he isn't one? I guess those 20 years made some posters forget what a first line center looks like.

As for Brodie, I think he has been getting better. People want a perfect game out of every player. I still argue that the defencemen on this team are being under-utilized. Giordano is the ONLY defencemen that can play a complete shut-down game. Maybe Hamonic as well. Hamilton, Brodie and Kulak (and whomever else the Flames even think of bringing up this year for the #6 spot) are all 2-way defencemen (including Giordano and Hamonic). Stone may be the only 'stay at home' defencemen, but even he should be getting the puck a bit more at the point.

You aren't going to get a perfect game defensively. What they provide is the ability to transition. They all defend fairly well - they are all decent in their own zone. They all move the puck exceptionally well, and it is especially true in Brodie's case. There is not another defencemen on this roster that can do what Brodie does - beat the forecheck with his speed, grab the puck and look for an 'out' right away without having to resort to making the safe play banking it off the glass. He will skate it out if needed. He will make a tape-to-tape pass if needed. He will jump in and generate on the rush.

Does he make mistakes? Yes. Did he go through a stretch where he was making too many? Yes. I also argue that there are probably a few reasons - personal troubles, playing his 'uncomfortable' side, and having a system that doesn't play to his strengths.

Brodie was lights-out under Hartley's quick transition system. Say what you will about that system, but that system created chaos for other teams in how they utilized the defencemen. Sarich complaining about "no reversals". Hartley was about the quick D-to-F pass, rather than the D-to-D-to-F pass.

Brodie is playing better of late. I also notice the Flames have started giving the green light to the D now. It makes 100% sense to do so given the lack of offence being generated and the talent that exists on the back end.

No, it doesn't mean relaxing the defensive play. It just means allowing the Defencemen to dictate more of what happens on the ice. That is their strength. Giordano is by far the best 2-way defencemen on this team, and next on that list is Brodie. I value him more than Hamilton as I think he is much more dynamic with the puck. Now that he seems more on top of his game and being utilized a bit better, I think in time there will be more posters agreeing with me.

Brodie is the last defencemen I want to see get traded.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Brouhaha

I'm sure we'd even give HF Boards a run for its money on some days.

Not a chance. HF boards is like someone took all the most idiotic mentally impaired hockey fans and dumped them on a message board. Every once in a while I will go look at the Trade Rumours board just to laugh at how ridiculously stupid the posters are there. With CP it is mostly intelligent posters with a scattering of them fixated on negativity, with HF it is where all the galactically stupid gather.

[smiggy77]

Edit: Lol I see that this has been beaten to death as I progress through the thread.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

This poopshow of a PGT (after a win no less) is an excellent example of why I have almost stopped posting. Where's the joy, the fun in a win when you read ... this?

My 2 cents on that.

Think of all the contributions we make to another team's ATL after a Flames loss. and win!

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by Kybb79

Hey im just venting how disappointed how i am in this season. Yeah im happy we won tonight, I wish it was not a debate. Yeah i know Mony is Mony he is a sniper and damn good at it. But i wish he would show up more often.I don't sugar coat anything about this team i speak the truth.

This is the gripes of a goal scorer. People would cry about it during the Iggy era too.

Having a 30+ goal scorer on your team is rare. If you can acknowledge that having a 30 goal scorer is great, you have to be ready to accept that he will likely not score in at least 52 games in the season.

[Monahammer]

Honestly if Monahan was 'more consistent' with his effort levels as some of you have suggested, he would be in conversation for best player in the league. It's ok that he's not quite there and he has shortcomings. He's still without a doubt the best centre this team has had since Nieuwendyk.

[Shazam]

Gee I read this entire thread and I didn't think there was too much negativity. There's a lot of posts about the negative posts though.

[Duffalufagus]

Just back from a biz trip. Is there a narrative going that is dumping on Monahan? Good grief. He is one of 5 bright spots this season and delivers ridic return in his modest contract.

There are other way easier lambs to slaughter than BSM.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Just back from a biz trip. Is there a narrative going that is dumping on Monahan? Good grief. He is one of 5 bright spots this season and delivers ridic return in his modest contract.

There are other way easier lambs to slaughter than BSM.

There's a small but vocal group of posters (Tinordi, GranteedEV, Love and a few others) who continuously assert things like "Monahan isn't a ture #1 Centre" or "this team will never win with Monahan as a 1C" and it's spilled over into several others who parrot it.

When the team loses a game or two (or even has a bad period) these sentiments seem to get regurgitated.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

There's a small but vocal group of posters (Tinordi, GranteedEV, Love and a few others) who continuously assert things like "Monahan isn't a ture #1 Centre" or "this team will never win with Monahan as a 1C" and it's spilled over into several others who parrot it.

When the team loses a game or two (or even has a bad period) these sentiments seem to get regurgitated.

What's more, even when he does well, those posters will disparage him asking why he doesn't do more.

10 OT goals? Pft, 3 on 3 didn't exist before.

5 straight 20 goal seasons? Pft, why not 5 straight 30 goal seasons?

3 straight seasons of 51%+ FO? OMG, he's not reliable in the circle.

He's not an elite centerman (only a few are) but he is 1st line material, NO QUESTION.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Gee I read this entire thread and I didn't think there was too much negativity. There's a lot of posts about the negative posts though.

Ironic, isn't it?