Naked swimming event coming to Calgary wave pool

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

I was at a couple onsen's in Japan this past spring. The tattoos thing is overblown.

It's really there to keep the Yakuza out, and they are most readily recognized by their tattoos.

It's fine outside of Tokyo. Hard to get into an onsen when you're in Tokyo and have a tattoo, especially ones that families frequent (e.g. Oedo Onsen Monogatari on Odaiba Island). I managed to get into multiple onsens in Beppu just fine, which is the proverbial home of Japanese onsens (particularly mud baths).

I have a couple of Japanese friends in Tokyo, they're embarrassed by the rule, especially as it pertains to mainstream tourist attractions.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I'm not up to speed on this but did the City actually put the kibosh on this? How can that be? Private function in a private venue, no laws being broken that I'm aware of.

Southland Leisure Center is not a private venue, it's a public one. As such, the City is obligated to provide for the safety of all people attending the building.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I'm not up to speed on this but did the City actually put the kibosh on this? How can that be? Private function in a private venue, no laws being broken that I'm aware of.

SLC is owned and operated by the City of Calgary. They own and manage quite a few recreational facilities. And also just own a few and have other organizations operate them (Repsol Centre, the newer YMCAs).

[4X4]

Originally Posted by ah123

@AnnaliseAK: Mayor Nenshi is on @AlbertaatNoon today. First time he's waded into nude swim saga. Says: "This is actually a very serious issue" and he's disappointed. Says there was a bomb threat, threats of baseball bats to car windows. Decision to cancel is about safety not nudity. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/AnnaliseAK/statu...94537651224576

Whatever you say, Nenshi. Don't suppose the CPS could afford to send one unit to hang around the parking lot for a couple of hours instead of hiding behind bushes trying to catch speeders.

I'm pretty embarrassed that Calgary is this lame. And a bomb threat too? Yeah, that's about as likely as a bomb threat at a high school during finals.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...gary-1.4485181 - Summary of Nenshi's comments and statements on the event, from the CBC talk

bunch of losers. the one that bugs me the most is the people who wanted to expose attendees as so called pedos.
I won't blame Calgary alone, as I assume many of the threats were from losers who don't even live in Calgary. wonder how many of the threats came from those "creep catcher" organizations.

"There was a bomb threat. There were people who were saying we're going to write down all the licence plate numbers and post them as pedophiles; we're going to take a baseball bat to car windows. This is obviously incredibly unacceptable behaviour, and it's not behaviour that we can ever countenance."

Nenshi also said the city has been hosting "naturist" events for "many, many years" without issue.

[CroFlames]

Folks should apologize to dino7c for berating him when he said some of his contacts in different organizations were concerned for safety. It was obviously legitimate and CPS was clearly involved.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Folks should apologize to dino7c for berating him when he said some of his contacts in different organizations were concerned for safety. It was obviously legitimate and CPS was clearly involved.

Yeah, that might almost fly, except that he said that they were worried about the pedos that might be at the event. He didn't say anything about the people OUTSIDE of the event, the ones threatening attendees with baseball bats, social media tar and feathering and bomb threats.

You know, the folks that CPS are actually worried about, not the phantom pedos...

[PaperBagger'14]

We should protest this decision by having a naked library book reading.

[Shazam]

Calgary needs to be part of the WNBR.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Folks should apologize to dino7c for berating him when he said some of his contacts in different organizations were concerned for safety. It was obviously legitimate and CPS was clearly involved.

Nobody berated him. People disagreed with him, even those with actual connections to CPS (like WhiteTiger).

I’m not sure where playing the victim has any value, but then, I also don’t know how a bomb threat legitimises the claim that Child and Family Services was involved.

But sure, the idea that a public event is a haven for child abusers to make public their child abuse habits seems legitimate, especially because of bombs. Let’s all apologise for thinking otherwise.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

I think people should have had the choice to go if they wanted to, but if you were a family taking your kids and they were any older than a few years of age then I'm seriously questioning your reasoning behind why you'd attend something like this. Even then. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Red Potato Standing By]

It may not make sense to you but may make sense to someone else, people have different interests and if it doesn’t effect you and no one is getting hurt who cares. And I would guess people’s reasoning for going is it is a nudist event and that is why they want to go because that is what they are into.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by Zethrynn

It may not make sense to you but may make sense to someone else, people have different interests and if it doesn’t effect you and no one is getting hurt who cares. And I would guess people’s reasoning for going is it is a nudist event and that is why they want to go because that is what they are into.

Which is why I said they should have every right to go. Doesn't mean I can't think it's stupid or express that thought.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

I think people should have had the choice to go if they wanted to, but if you were a family taking your kids and they were any older than a few years of age then I'm seriously questioning your reasoning behind why you'd attend something like this. Even then. It doesn't make sense to me.

I would agree with you if you raised your kids wearing clothes. But If you raise your kids as nudists and regular have attended nudist events throughout their lives would there be anything abnormal about it?

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

It's fine outside of Tokyo...

I have a couple of Japanese friends in Tokyo, they're embarrassed by the rule, especially as it pertains to mainstream tourist attractions.

Interesting. Apologies for the complete thread derailment...

Didn’t realize it’s just local to Tokyo. I’m heading to Hokkaido next week and it’s been a concern since two of the places I have booked state online a strict tattoo policy.

Planning on using a cover up but that’s good to know.

I get the slippery slope argument but how do they not limit it to local folk with tattoos if the issue is Yakuza or ex-cons, or drop it completely? There was a big push from the tourism industry a few years ago, can’t say I disagree with your friends.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

I think people should have had the choice to go if they wanted to, but if you were a family taking your kids and they were any older than a few years of age then I'm seriously questioning your reasoning behind why you'd attend something like this. Even then. It doesn't make sense to me.

Because you want to teach your kids that their bodies aren’t something to be ashamed of? Because you want them to not be embarrassed with nudity of themselves or others?

Because you can’t often go skinny dipping in Alberta without freezing your balls off, and it’s F-ing fun.

I wonder how many of the “death threat/ vandal” crowd would describe themselves as “religious warriors”. I can’t see any other group being bothered by this.

Anyway, Calgary looks like a joke for how this was handled. Put a cop in the parking lot and lobby. Problem solved. Not that most of these keyboard jockeys have the guts to do anything.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Because you want to teach your kids that their bodies aren’t something to be ashamed of? Because you want them to not be embarrassed with nudity of themselves or others?

Hey man if you want to see your entire family butt naked swimming and going down waterslides then all the power to you.

[Locke]

Opinion Piece from the Calgary Herald.

What do eating beef and nude swimming have in common?

The one thing gnawing on a steak and wearing your birthday suit to a pool party have in common is the galling tendency of sanctimonious people on both sides of the political spectrum, but mostly on the left, to constantly try to stop other people from doing what they want to do with their lives, time and resources.

Twitter blew up, Phillips’ tweet made the news and some of those weighing in asked what many Albertans should ponder often: Is there any other provincial government in Canada that has staff and elected members in their ranks who actively oppose their own province’s main industries?

Is there anyone in even the incompetent provincial Liberal government in Ontario, for instance, who is opposed to the carbon-intensive auto sector? Of course not.

As for the private nude swim scheduled for Sunday at Calgary’s Southland Leisure Centre, the City of Calgary said in a statement that under the advice of the police, it has caved in to “volatile” public pressure and cancelled the swim, citing safety concerns of the participants.

So, holding a private family swim party at a privately organized, privately funded event isn’t OK, but threatening people with harm is? Shouldn’t the city and the police defend the rights of the law-abiding naturists and arrest and charge those who try to impede their movements or threaten them with injury?

Sadly, too many people don’t feel that way. More than 20,000 busybodies signed a petition calling on the city to cancel this event, which it did.

Essentially, there are two disparate groups that are constantly carping about what others do.

One group of people doesn’t want you to have a choice on virtually anything — except if it’s an abortion or allowing a doctor to kill their patient; then, choice is righteous. These are often the very same people who pretty much believe every other choice should be removed from you,

Oh, these folk talk a lot about tolerance, but they’re only tolerant if you believe exactly what they believe. They tend to sweat the small stuff and shrug off the bigger issues,

James Paton, the lead pastor of First Alliance Church in southeast Calgary, points out that Trudeau and his government are “actually asking us to agree with the federal Liberal policy platform, but they don’t ask Pakistan to do that, they don’t ask China to do that. It’s ironic.”

“Does everybody have to change their opinion every time a new government comes into power?” asks Paton. Is that what Canadians want? Or do we want real, principled tolerance?

http://calgaryherald.com/opinion/col...ity-busybodies

[White Out 403]

What a terrible article. I love how they have to take time to claim that the left is mostly responsible for telling people not to do things, when this is clearly Pearl clutchers on the right.

The reality is there are many religious zealots on the right who spend a lot of time telling people how to be moral, and that's likely exactly what happened here

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

What a terrible article. I love how they have to take time to claim that the left is mostly responsible for telling people not to do things, when this is clearly Pearl clutchers on the right.

The reality is there are many religious zealots on the right who spend a lot of time telling people how to be moral, and that's likely exactly what happened here

I am a conservative, and had no problem with the event. My wife who is Catholic, and goes to church had no problem with the event either. In fact the people I work with who are mostly conservative had no problem with it. I doubt it is a "left or right" thing that got it canceled.