[News] Flames recall Mangiapane. Frolik on IR

[monkeyman]

I know I keep tooting this horn, but Ferland needs to be taken off the first line, at least until he starts playing with some purpose, playing more physical and stops with the bad, blind passes.
move Hathaway to that line, to dig for pucks and create some space(i.e. Hyman in Toronto), play Mangiapane with Jankowski, they had success in the AHL together, and for the love of god, stop rewarding Monahan/Johnny with first unit PP time, they clearly aren't earning.

[getbak]

He will be the most dominant player wearing #88 on the ice tonight.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

He's not wrong.... You seem overly sensitive about the complaining going on.

There's only 2 teams in the entire conference with less ROWs than thus flames team. This isn't just a function of inflated expectations.

I know it goes against every fibre of some Flames 'fans' existence, but there are some intelligent people working for the Flames. I know, hard to accept but it's true.

Stajan is on the team for a reason. It might not always be clear to those of us on the outside, but I choose to side with he organization on this. Further, if it gets to the point where they can't put him out there anymore, they won't. As long as there is a replacement that has earned it, they will replace him.

My bet is that by the end of the year/playoffs Stajan is eating popcorn and Mangipane is a regular.

At the end of the day, Stajan is not holding this team back. I'm looking at Monahan, Hamilton, Brodie, Gaudreau. You know, the whole 'your best players need to be your best players' thing? Pretty damn hard to win consistently with the performances we've seen from this lot over the past 6 weeks or so.

[Max Cow Disease]

Not ideal linemates for anyone but it’s always more likely that a guy with no NHL experience is going to start way down the line up, and the fact that the team’s saddled with a bit of dead weight right now is what it is - you have to work around it in some way or another, and I doubt the team will be sitting 7.5-8m in the press box for many long stretches of time. We’ll probably see Freddie and/or Lazar slotted in again at some point in the near future. I don’t really want to see Jagr on the 4th line any more, and the Janko-Benny-Hathaway line has been strong so you should leave that for now.

If Yeast makes his case and works hard, then he’ll find himself in a more prestigious spot eventually I’m sure, even if he gets sent down again once, twice, or thrice on the road to becoming a regular. Janko started in the minors but everyone knew it was only a matter of time, then he was recalled and had to do some time on the 4th line playing with bums, and now we’re seeing him inch his way up and get more responsibilities (including PK and PP). Ditto for Garnet.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I know it goes against every fibre of some Flames 'fans' existence, but there are some intelligent people working for the Flames. I know, hard to accept but it's true.

Stajan is on the team for a reason. It might not always be clear to those of us on the outside, but I choose to side with he organization on this. Further, if it gets to the point where they can't put him out there anymore, they won't. As long as there is a replacement that has earned it, they will replace him.

My bet is that by the end of the year/playoffs Stajan is eating popcorn and Mangipane is a regular.

At the end of the day, Stajan is not holding this team back. I'm looking at Monahan, Hamilton, Brodie, Gaudreau. You know, the whole 'your best players need to be your best players' thing? Pretty damn hard to win consistently with the performances we've seen from this lot over the past 6 weeks or so.

For me, its not that Stajan is on the team, its how he is used, the situations the coaching staff puts him in. They use him too much. He shouldnt be dressing in as many games as he does. He should no longer be used so much on the PK. And for **** sakes lets not put him out right after we score a goal, its a momentum killer. I guess what I am saying is the Flames need better coaching.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

For me, its not that Stajan is on the team, its how he is used, the situations the coaching staff puts him in. They use him too much. He shouldnt be dressing in as many games as he does. He should no longer be used so much on the PK. And for **** sakes lets not put him out right after we score a goal, its a momentum killer. I guess what I am saying is the Flames need better coaching.

exactly. Ice time needs to be pulled from line 4 and given to line 1. The more TOI line 1 has the better odds of scoring since we all know line 1 scores at a higher rate. They can take the extra icetime and you may even see them scoring again because lots of players play better when given more icetime. Brouwer and Stajan don't seem interested in using their icetime anyway and they currently don't have the ability to put the puck in the net on a regular basis.

It's too much time for line 4. The way I see it we don't need guys floating around, we already have enough of that game in and game out. Line 4's only value currently is to give other players a rest. If the organization or that line feel differently I'd love to hear an explanation for the floating around and going through the motions all the time.

Let's face it, Stajan and Brouwer have made their millions so now their hard work is complete. They're done and they know it.

[868904]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

For me, its not that Stajan is on the team, its how he is used, the situations the coaching staff puts him in. They use him too much. He shouldnt be dressing in as many games as he does. He should no longer be used so much on the PK. And for **** sakes lets not put him out right after we score a goal, its a momentum killer. I guess what I am saying is the Flames need better coaching.

Stajan should be the 13 forward for leadership and locker room intangibles.

Freddie should not be on the team and if Dougie can't live without his brother than trade him, it's not like he's helping this team win.

Lazar is probably more useful than Brouwer but if they don't want to sit the contract then send Lazar to the AHL to build some confidence, he should clear now.

Hrivik is a big two way, good skating centre man with skill, he's perfect the forth lien centre spot right now.

[Mr.Coffee]

also who cares if he doesn't clear waivers? Same as Brouwer? Get rid of the salary, they add virtually next to no value.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by 868904

Stajan should be the 13 forward for leadership and locker room intangibles.

Freddie should not be on the team and if Dougie can't live without his brother than trade him, it's not like he's helping this team win.

Lazar is probably more useful than Brouwer but if they don't want to sit the contract then send Lazar to the AHL to build some confidence, he should clear now.

Hrivik is a big two way, good skating centre man with skill, he's perfect the forth lien centre spot right now.

This is an honest question, I've seen many poster mentioned it but is it really true that Dougie needs his brother on the team to be able to play. He has been playing without Freddie before in his career, I'm sure.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

This is an honest question, I've seen many poster mentioned it but is it really true that Dougie needs his brother on the team to be able to play. He has been playing without Freddie before in his career, I'm sure.

Until someone can actually show something tangible on this, to me its a made up narrative.

Just like the Bruins saying he was a bad dressing room influence to justify trading him away.

[Buff]

Happy Yeaster!

No? I'm stupid, I'll leave now.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Buff

Happy Yeaster!

No? I'm stupid, I'll leave now.

Happy new yeast!

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I know it goes against every fibre of some Flames 'fans' existence, but there are some intelligent people working for the Flames. I know, hard to accept but it's true.

Stajan is on the team for a reason. It might not always be clear to those of us on the outside, but I choose to side with he organization on this. Further, if it gets to the point where they can't put him out there anymore, they won't. As long as there is a replacement that has earned it, they will replace him.

My bet is that by the end of the year/playoffs Stajan is eating popcorn and Mangipane is a regular.

At the end of the day, Stajan is not holding this team back. I'm looking at Monahan, Hamilton, Brodie, Gaudreau. You know, the whole 'your best players need to be your best players' thing? Pretty damn hard to win consistently with the performances we've seen from this lot over the past 6 weeks or so.

Your view on flames management is the very definition of blind faith. Fact is the flames will be the only lottery team without a 1st this year. Sad

[SportsJunky]

Is that a fact?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Is that a fact?

They have to play .625 hockey the rest of the way to make it. The flames and the oilers have roughly the same chance of making the playoffs.

[SportsJunky]

I wonder if a team has ever done that before?

[CsInMyBlood]

Stajan needs to retire or go to the AHL. Jagr needs to retire. Familton needs to go to the AHL. Lazar needs to go to the AHL. Brouwer needs to be bought out or at the very least strip him of his A and give it to Backlund.

Time to see what our AHL prospects are made of. Eat bread, Klimchuk, Hrivik, hell Lomberg f###ed her. Time to change that whole dynamic. Need some energy on that 4th line.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Until someone can actually show something tangible on this, to me its a made up narrative.

Just like the Bruins saying he was a bad dressing room influence to justify trading him away.

I just wish people will just stop, it stops being funny long time ago.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Stajan needs to retire or go to the AHL. Jagr needs to retire. Familton needs to go to the AHL. Lazar needs to go to the AHL. Brouwer needs to be bought out or at the very least strip him of his A and give it to Backlund.

Time to see what our AHL prospects are made of. Eat bread, Klimchuk, Hrivik, hell Lomberg f###ed her. Time to change that whole dynamic. Need some energy on that 4th line.

I don't mind keeping Jagr around as a 1 million dollar coach basically. Get him a game here and there. He honestly seems content with that and so am I.

Other wise, all yes please.

[flamesfever]

I think the $1 million for Jagr has been well spent. IMO he has been a great role model for guys like Bennett and Jankowski.