2017 NFL season thread

[Hockey]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

Robiskie's literally the worst OC in the league, what stupid play call was that on 3rd and 2? Embarrassing that he even has a job people see Mariotas numbers are down this is the #### he has to deal with. We would have gotten killed in the playoffs and probably would keep our coaches , now lets lose out and get some actually good coaches. I hope we trade Mariota so we don't ruin the poor kids career, trade him to Denver so he can win a Superbowl.

So frustrating. I just wanted a taste of playoffs so bad even though they probably one and done, but if us losing out means the coaching staff gets canned then I'm all for it.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

What's only a rule in the end zone? I don't think the end zone even came into play on that ruling.

yeah that rule applies everywhere on the field.

Dez Bryant's non-catch a few years ago in the playoffs at Lambeau

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

yeah that rule applies everywhere on the field.

Dez Bryant's non-catch a few years ago in the playoffs at Lambeau

Ah I could have sworn Romo said it only applies to the end zone.

Either way guy had control and reached out.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Ah I could have sworn Romo said it only applies to the end zone.

Either way guy had control and reached out.

yeah the NFL has made a black and white rule, a receiver must complete the entire process of the catch. This also includes reaching out for more yardage which I'm not sure should be included because it's a different act.

But that would be too judgemental in some cases. When does a different act occur?

[You Need a Thneed]

Think of the play this way:

Had the play been the same, but a patriot had been touching James as he had a knee down, it would have been a catch as the play would have ended there.

But he's not touched, so he turns into the end zone and breaks the plane.

He literally cannot extend the ball towards the end zone if he doesn't already have possession.

[Nsd1]

The Carolina Panthers are for sale at the end of the season. The Bills sold for 1.4 Billion in 2014, wonder if the Panthers sell for more.

[transplant99]

To me what makes that rule even dumber is had that been a hand off and the runner reached out then bobbled it when hitting the ground, it would have counted.

As soon as the ball breaks the plane of the end zone in a guys hands, it should be a TD...full stop.

Its mind boggling that its a controversy when a catch is a catch but isnt called a catch.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Think of the play this way:

Had the play been the same, but a patriot had been touching James as he had a knee down, it would have been a catch as the play would have ended there.

But he's not touched, so he turns into the end zone and breaks the plane.

He literally cannot extend the ball towards the end zone if he doesn't already have possession.

Being touched or not is irrelevant. He still has to complete the process of a catch. He's not a runner down by contact.
I've seen 'non-catches' where the receiver had possession, both feet down and then defender punched the ball out.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

The Carolina Panthers are for sale at the end of the season. The Bills sold for 1.4 Billion in 2014, wonder if the Panthers sell for more.

Is it because of the misconduct allegations swirling around the owner?

https://www.si.com/jerry-richardson-...nt-racial-slur

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by transplant99

To me what makes that rule even dumber is had that been a hand off and the runner reached out then bobbled it when hitting the ground, it would have counted.

As soon as the ball breaks the plane of the end zone in a guys hands, it should be a TD...full stop.

Its mind boggling that its a controversy when a catch is a catch but isnt called a catch.

This reasoning makes no sense. So as soon as it touches a receivers hands in the end zone, it should be a catch? If a running back is bobbling it before crossing the end zone, and doesn't regain possession, I don't think that's a touchdown.

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by Hockey

So frustrating. I just wanted a taste of playoffs so bad even though they probably one and done, but if us losing out means the coaching staff gets canned then I'm all for it.

I feel ya man we probably wouldn't win but it's been 10 years since we were even in playoffs. Next year with Watson and Luck back forget it we ain't making it. Alsoo Lebeau has to go, when Tom Savage throws for over 300 yards on the road against you, you know your garbage.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by troutman

Is it because of the misconduct allegations swirling around the owner?

https://www.si.com/jerry-richardson-...nt-racial-slur

Thats part of it Im sure. He also has been in very poor health for a long time now...had a heart transplant IIRC.

Time to get new blood in there either way.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

This reasoning makes no sense. So as soon as it touches a receivers hands in the end zone, it should be a catch? If a running back is bobbling it before crossing the end zone, and doesn't regain possession, I don't think that's a touchdown.

Ummm...no. James had the ball cross the line BEFORE it was bobbled however.

Again if a running back crosses the plane its a TD regardless if he bobbles when he hits the ground.

Its a complete double standard.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by transplant99

To me what makes that rule even dumber is had that been a hand off and the runner reached out then bobbled it when hitting the ground, it would have counted.

As soon as the ball breaks the plane of the end zone in a guys hands, it should be a TD...full stop.

Its mind boggling that its a controversy when a catch is a catch but isnt called a catch.

funniest thing is the league itself saying "Roethlisberger completes a pass to James" in its explanatory video. I feel the league is shooting itself in the foot with strange rules that take the excitement out of the game, especially in the endzone.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Ummm...no. James had the ball cross the line BEFORE it was bobbled however.

Again if a running back crosses the plane its a TD regardless if he bobbles when he hits the ground.

Its a complete double standard.

You have to have a complete pass before you can have a receiving touch down. James reached before completing the reception. If he had controlled it through to the ground and then reached and bobbled it would have been a td. I'm not seeing the double standard.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by habernac

I'm flying to Pittsburgh Friday for the Pats/Steelers game, hoping the Pats got the garbage out of their system. I haven't seen Brady play that poorly in quite awhile.

How was it?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

You have to have a complete pass before you can have a receiving touch down. James reached before completing the reception. If he had controlled it through to the ground and then reached and bobbled it would have been a td. I'm not seeing the double standard.

Was the ball in his hands and across the plane before he hit the ground? Yes. At that point it should be a TD, but wasnt because he has to control it to the ground even though the TD has been scored if using a runners rules.

If a runner does the same thing, as in crosses the plane before hitting the ground and bobbling it, its a TD.

Its a completely massive double standard.

Actually i would go as far to say its the single stupidest rule in pro sports. Period.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Was the ball in his hands and across the plane before he hit the ground? Yes. At that point it should be a TD, but wasnt because he has to control it to the ground even though the TD has been scored if using a runners rules.

If a runner does the same thing, as in crosses the plane before hitting the ground and bobbling it, its a TD.

Its a completely massive double standard.

Actually i would go as far to say its the single stupidest rule in pro sports. Period.

With a handoff there is a continuity of possession. With a throw the ball must be re-possessed by the receiver. This must be the logic behind the rule.

[jeffporfirio]

The 49ers win a third straight and the Seahawks get humiliated at home..its a good Sunday.

[Cheese]

Regardless of whether it was a catch or not, The Steelers blew it on the next play. Ben should have spiked the ball or handed it off, NE couldnt stop the run most of the night. Ben lost the game.