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[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I said it wasn't his fault...he is not good enough though

.813 save% on the season...team is obviously terrified to put him in net

As Deluxe said, pretty small sample size to be making these types of assertions.

According to NHL.com his SV% is .857 on the season, which includes this nightmare game where he got hung out to dry and less than a full game’s worth of work outside of it. Definitely not in the “concerned” zone yet, he was fine the game previous.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I appreciate that.

I do think Sv% is a horrible stat to pin on a goalie with a small sample size, especially with anomaly games like tonight as a huge contribution.

A big part of statistics is statistical significance

Well you can defend him next year when he is playing in Europe

He is not an NHL quality goal tender

[Beninho]

Just light up Elliott on Saturday and all will be forgiven

[sa226]

Only thing that worries me about this game is Lack. Yeah, the team didn't help him out much, but he didn't look that great either.

Other than that, debacles like this can bring a team together. They were already starting to turn a corner, maybe this catapults them. Or maybe it doesn't. I choose to look at the positives.

Refs lost control of the game. Plain and simple. I think they lost control, by trying to take control too.

That was bush league by those 2 Detroit players, absolute bush league. Id like to say that Id like to play them again, but you know for sure that if they met again this year, the league would put a stop to any nonsense. The game would be a penalty filled snooze fest.

Growing pains, but this team is too good for this to be the norm. The division is starting to tighten up, and they have put themselves in a position to make a run for 1st place, but they can't take all season to figure their crap out.

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[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No.

His biggest role is to coach. To get them playing a certain way, a way that (ideally) wins you games.

If an adult at the very top of his profession needs someone to get him “ready to play” when it’s time to go out there and do your job, then that adult should just stay the #### home.

While its not his only job, having the team prepared to play is definitely part of what a coach does. Knowing when to scold, when to inspire. There is a human element to getting the most out of any employee. To put zero blame on GG for team preparedness is not realistic .

[memphusk]

Call me old, but I loved it. Emotion is what the makes the game.

[killer_carlson]

What did Troy Brouwer bring to the lineup tonight aside from his enormous cap hit?

What does he need to do, consistently, to be able to justify his spot in the lineup?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well you can defend him next year when he is playing in Europe

He is not an NHL quality goal tender

Ok. I do really think any goalie would have had a crap game behind this team tonight.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Not Lack's fault but he is not good enough, not even close

Flames need an upgrade. Can't just have a guaranteed loss every time the backup is in

Lack has a long history of getting peppered yet Gulutzen talks him up all the time like he is Patrick Roy. It is solely because of Gulutzen Lack is a Flame. Whatever this won't be the last time Lack starts and gets shelled early.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Ok. I do really think any goalie would have had a crap game behind this team tonight.

There is a reason this was his second start of the season and both were terrible

He has made one big save in three games

Smith would have lost tonight, I would have too

if I was in net they would have lost too...that doesn't mean there isnt a better option out there

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I totally agree. And its not just in Flames games. The Refs seem to have egos that interfear in their roll.

Its crazy that there is no recourse or peneltys for doing a poor job.

I agree. NHL refereeing is at the same level as your spelling. (Sorry but I couldn't resist).

[MBates]

Originally Posted by AC

Gulutzan's full scrum:
https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status/931013945493778432

Hard to imagine how he could have been better in his comments here.

[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I defer to Gully's comments

Which was he supposed to save?

"We didn't get a big save" I'm not blaming this this loss on Lack but I'm sorry he was not good at all. But to defend your point the team was brutal tonight

[camm13]

GG is absolutely horrible at adjusting during a game.

You pull a goalie whose looking shaky at goal number 3, not 5. You also pull a goalie in hopes of some sort of spark on the team.

Brodie had an absolutely atrocious night.. after -4, you continue to put him on the first line pp, where he continued to lose the puck and could not gain entry. Also get Versteeg off the pp, he's soft as butter and loses the puck constantly. The only main contributors right now on the pp are Gaudreau/Monny/Ferly. Get Gio and Hamilton on the first unit. Hamilton is your most offensive D, yet he sees basically no pp time.

Change up the PK, I would rather see Kulak on there instead of stone. Janko/Lazar? Get some young legs in there who can keep up in there.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

I agree. NHL refereeing is at the same level as your spelling. (Sorry but I couldn't resist).

Fair enough. I was angry, good on you for pointing that out.

[Fan in Exile]

On a positive note, I was impressed with Jankowski tonight. You can see his confidence growing. Over 15 minutes of ice time tonight.

[dino7c]

I am obviously no fan of Lack...but to pull him early for a guy who has been in the AHL all season with the way the team was going would have been a bad move.

It also wouldn't have changed a damn thing

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

While its not his only job, having the team prepared to play is definitely part of what a coach does. Knowing when to scold, when to inspire. There is a human element to getting the most out of any employee. To put zero blame on GG for team preparedness is not realistic .

Sorry I’m sure this has been covered in detail somewhere else but I listened to the tail end of the game in the car and Loubo implied the coach was away from the team yesterday due to a personal reason and joined the team late- not to absolve him of all guilt but am wondering if he wasn’t as involved in game day prep as usual-
The players and rest of the coaching staff wouldn’t be off the hook in this situation of course

[dino7c]

JG had another two points...8 game point streak

totally forgot, bright spot

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Really... I obviously dont know you or what you do, but I think a lot of early 20 year olds need a lot of guidence and preperation from their boss's. Now I could be wrong and thats just my opinion as I have only worked as a proffesional and not played pro sports.

Also teaching them to play a certin way is for practice. On game day his job is to prep the team for the opponent and make sure they are engaged/ready.

I have never, in my young life, worked in or known anyone who has had a boss that gets you “ready to work” when it’s time to do your job.

You come to work ready to work. That’s the expectation, whether you’re flipping burgers or playing hockey for hundreds of thousands of dollars or more a year.


Look at it this way. A university professor’s job is to teach, not to get the students ready to learn. It’s their job to provide the information that prepares them for the test, not literally sit there and make sure they take it all in and study enough.

When you’re adult, you come ready when you’re supposed to be ready. There’s no one out there holding your hand. Guys like Tkachuk? They come ready, you can tell. He’s getting the exact same info everyone is, so what’s stopping them?