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Old 11-15-2017, 08:44 PM   #121
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If this group wants to win a cup, it needs to learn to win these games.
They did. The game last week, also by a lopsided score against the same team your pumping the tires of.

It's an 82 games season. The back to back Stanley Cup Champion Pens have lost games like this twice this season.

It's all about context. There's no need to take the one bad game (when we have just played over a half dozen good ones) and act like it's the true problematic picture of where the team is at.
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Replay shows Ferland within the players bench throwing punches at the Wings player...
I can't see him throwing any punches in the SNET replay.

Looks like he grabs at Ericsson, but the linesman immediately stops Ferland from doing anything further.
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those last 5 minutes ... I haven't missed Jarome Iginla as a Flame more than that, in a long time. He would have beat the living @#$*#@ out of someone in a Red Wings jersey.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:45 PM   #124
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#### I love Matty and Ferland. Also really digging how Janko seems like he isn't going to be one to shy away from getting rough when needed.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:45 PM   #125
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Well, no.

I will agree that Smith has been terrific, and he has stolen a couple of games. But the team has played a bunch of legitimately excellent games in which they were full marks for the wins from stem-to-stern.

This was just all round an awful, dog of a game.
I think you're both right, actually. Personally, I would suggest we've had more poor performances than good ones so far.

That said, I doubt Mike Smith at his best bails us out tonight.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:46 PM   #126
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cliff notes?
Didn’t see the spear, thinks it was a bogus call. Called out his team for not being ready to play. Stuck up for Lack, said the team let him down when they should have come to his aid after he’s worked his ass off the past month in practice.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:46 PM   #127
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I think he will gets the max.... He is a bit player and the league will flex its muscle.
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I can't see him throwing any punches in the SNET replay.

Looks like he grabs at Ericsson, but the linesman immediately stops Ferland from doing anything further.
Watched Sportsnet after the game. They showed a replay and they commented on it.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:46 PM   #129
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at least they can't get negative points
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Please be back on Saturday Smith. Goaltending wasn't the sole reason they lost but Lack needs to be better than that. I really hope that Treliving is atleast keeping tabs on what would be better options at backup.
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To sum it up:

He felt that our team should have showed emotion after the first period in order to support the goalie. Not at end like they did.

On the "spear" - G said he watched the tape 20 times and can not find any spear.

Pointed out that the team should be mad after getting their ass kicked.

Felt that the team thought it was going to be easy and did not come out prepared.
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The Detroit Red Wings are a damn good hockey team with a proud and storied tradition. I would expect nothing less than the effort they put forth tonight given us beating them 6-3 last week at the Dome.

If this group wants to win a cup, it needs to learn to win these games. And I think that is going to be the next evolution of the team if this core is going to have a chance at a cup. They came up against a proud club who were out to prove a point.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:47 PM   #133
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#Flames coach Glen Gulutzan on Tkachuk's major: "I’m still searching for the spear. I don’t know, if the first little tap on the ankle is a spear then, oof, I guess I’ve misjudged this game for the last 25 years. I’m searching for it. I can’t find it."

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#Flames coach Glen Gulutzan after 8-2 loss in Detroit: “We have some lessons to learn. You should learn from getting your ass kicked and not being prepared. But that’s not acceptable, either.”
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Didn't watch the game but after seeing the replay/highlights, why is Tkachuk instigating as much as he is? I get that's how he plays and that's when he's at his best but I can't help but to think that this was the wrong time, place and person.

It's a blowout game that you're losing, Witowski just took it way too far against Kulak with a dirty slam but Witowski is already off the ice and Tkachuk reaches in for the tap?
Okay fine, now there's some posturing with teams getting in each other's face. Even so, Witowski is still pulled back and turns to leave. Tkachuk goes too far again in shoving him. Why? Are you going to send a message to a player and a team that you'll no longer see for the rest of the regular season? Or a statement to the league that you'll stand up for your team when a no-name guy is already being sent off by initiating a scrum?

Not going to point a finger at any single player or individual moment as it all played a part but did want to share my 2 cents on Tkachuk's part in it.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:48 PM   #135
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Here's the SNET feed of the whole brawl without them cutting away:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/g...mes-red-wings/
After watching this I wish we played these #######s again so Ferland could knock Mantha out of the NHL. Absolutely Disgusting
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:49 PM   #137
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That's the best thing Gulutzan has ever said. Bravo sir.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:50 PM   #138
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Didn't watch the game but after seeing the replay/highlights, why is Tkachuk instigating as much as he is? I get that's how he plays and that's when he's at his best but I can't help but to think that this was the wrong time, place and person.

It's a blowout game that you're losing, Witowski just took it way too far against Kulak with a dirty slam but Witowski is already off the ice and Tkachuk reaches in for the tap?
Okay fine, now there's some posturing with teams getting in each other's face. Even so, Witowski is still pulled back and turns to leave. Tkachuk goes too far again in shoving him. Why? Are you going to send a message to a player and a team that you'll no longer see for the rest of the regular season? Or a statement to the league that you'll stand up for your team when a no-name guy is already being sent off by initiating a scrum?

Not going to point a finger at any single player or individual moment as it all played a part but did want to share my 2 cents on Tkachuk's part in it.
I"m kinda pissed Tkachuk didn't drop his gloves and start pounding on Howard.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:50 PM   #139
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Didn't watch the game but after seeing the replay/highlights, why is Tkachuk instigating as much as he is? I get that's how he plays and that's when he's at his best but I can't help but to think that this was the wrong time, place and person.

It's a blowout game that you're losing, Witowski just took it way too far against Kulak with a dirty slam but Witowski is already off the ice and Tkachuk reaches in for the tap?
Okay fine, now there's some posturing with teams getting in each other's face. Even so, Witowski is still pulled back and turns to leave. Tkachuk goes too far again in shoving him. Why? Are you going to send a message to a player and a team that you'll no longer see for the rest of the regular season? Or a statement to the league that you'll stand up for your team when a no-name guy is already being sent off by initiating a scrum?

Not going to point a finger at any single player or individual moment as it all played a part but did want to share my 2 cents on Tkachuk's part in it.
Because he was sticking up for a rookie who just got his ass kicked by a goon who picked on a guy below his weight class. Tkachuk should be commended, not blamed.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:51 PM   #140
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FWIW (nothing) we did win the corsi battle ~ 59-41...

Detroit went 4/6 on the PP and got a SHG.

We couldn’t get a big save tonight. Forget it and move on.
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