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Old 11-05-2017, 05:26 PM   #41
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Holy crap. Blockbusters are so much fun.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:28 PM   #42
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Kamenev is a 2nd in a redraft I'd say, probably a year away from the NHL. Hammond would have negative value however Colorado could afford a lot so they'd take it in a heartbeat for the deal to get done
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:29 PM   #43
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I would've taken Snow's offer instead of this one if I'm Colorado, but what do I know.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:33 PM   #44
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A lot fo quantity going to Colorado.

None of those pieces are even close to Duchene unless they strike gold in the draft with those picks.
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Seems like a good trade for all of the teams. The Avs better be confident in their scouting staff
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:38 PM   #46
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NYI Isles offered Hamonic, 1st, 2nd. Hamonic got the Isles a 1st, and 2 x 2nd

So NYI Isles offered Colorado 2x1st round picks, 3x2nd round picks

Today Colorado got:
1 x first
1 x second
1 x third
Bowers = late first
Kamenev = mid second
Girard = mid second

So basically the same return as what the isles offered
And I would say that in a redraft both girard and kamenev would go in the first. Unreal return
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:38 PM   #47
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Haven't had this kind of trade excitement since that Hall and Subban day
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:39 PM   #48
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The Avs are resigned to bottoming out. Get nothing to help them now, but a big haul of prospects and picks.

Sens get a potential game-breaker who can fit into their budget long-term.

Nashville is weak at centre so in the span of a season and half they add Johansen and Turris. David Poile is good at GMing.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:40 PM   #49
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I guess this depends on if Ottawa can re-sign Duchene and if he realizes his potential..
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:41 PM   #50
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And I would say that in a redraft both girard and kamenev would go in the first. Unreal return
Idk about Kamenev, I think he'd go around the same spot, but Girard is a mid 1st at least
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:42 PM   #51
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I guess this depends on if Ottawa can re-sign Duchene and if he realizes his potential..
Yeah if they don't re-sign him they have to make noise in the next two seasons but for this season it's essentially Turris for Duchene which isn't a huge upgrade. Looks like a good deal for the Avs but if any team can screw up those picks and prospects it's them. I feel Nashville came out really good here as they just added a quality center without subtracting anything off their roster.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:43 PM   #52
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Nice return for Sakic. Good on him for sticking to his guns.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:46 PM   #53
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That is a huge haul for Colorado and although they are worse off today it will definitely show dividends in the future. Also a good move for Nashville getting a #2 centre.

Not sure about Ottawa though. I know they were likely going to lose Turris in free agency but giving him up plus picks and a prospect for Duchene seems like a huge over payment.

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Ottawa got hosed.
Nashville and Colorado did really well.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:51 PM   #55
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Poile has been ridiculous.

Out:
Picks
Seth Jones
Shea Weber
James Neal

In:
PK Subban
Ryan Johansen
Kyle Turris
Nick Bonino

He's almost pushing Yzerman for best GM.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:54 PM   #56
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Was this a real 3-way trade or more like Ottawa trading Bowers, Hammond, 1st, 3rd, Turris to the Avalanche then the Avs flipping Turris to Nashville for a 2nd, Kamenev and Girard?
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:02 PM   #57
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And the big winner is Nashville...
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Was this a real 3-way trade or more like Ottawa trading Bowers, Hammond, 1st, 3rd, Turris to the Avalanche then the Avs flipping Turris to Nashville for a 2nd, Kamenev and Girard?

That is basically how three-way trades work.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:22 PM   #59
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Huge return for Colorado! Sakic did well by holding out.

Meanwhile, up in Edmonton...



As Chiarelli looks at his return for Hall AND Eberle, both of whom had similar or higher point production to Duchene. A 2-3D and a 3-4C, that's it.
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I like it a lot for Colorado and Nashville

Ottawa needs Duchesne to be an 80+ point top line guy, anything less than it's too much

They have the highest ceiling player in the deal, but also the biggest potential of it blowing up in their face
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