Arena negotiation discussion. UPD: Flames release their proposal

[northcrunk]

Not a bad idea at all.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Southside

Neat concept mentioned as model for the Flames arena.

https://insidehockey.com/rossettis-i...-arena-design/

Currently in talks with the Calgary Flames, huh. I thought the Flames were done negotiating, so I wonder what they're talking about.

As for the design, it looks pretty cool to me. More concourse levels should mean shorter bathroom lines and beer lines, and a smaller overall footprint is also better and should be cheaper. Hopefully this is along the lines of what the city and Flames end up with.

[northcrunk]

Would this increase the amount of seating as well?

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Would this increase the amount of seating as well?

At first glance I don't get that impression. I'm imagining it as kind of splitting the 200's down the center horizontally and pushing everything "forwards" on that plane. So the PLs and Co-op Zone Section would be enjoying a view that's more typical of the upper-level greens rather than the crap view they endure currently, and vice versa.

[DJones]

All that open bar space made me want it haha

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Southside

Neat concept mentioned as model for the Flames arena.

https://insidehockey.com/rossettis-i...-arena-design/

This concept was shown an discussed on page 168+ of this thread. Nothing new. Cool concept

[Southside]

Originally Posted by JBR

This concept was shown an discussed on page 168+ of this thread. Nothing new. Cool concept

The video was there not the story with mention of the Flames. I've been avoiding this thread for the political discussion so I hadn't seen the video either.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Southside

The video was there not the story with mention of the Flames. I've been avoiding this thread for the political discussion so I hadn't seen the video either.

I think it is also noteworthy that footage of the Flames is featured in the video when describing the hockey layout of the building.

[monkeyman]

From the news thread:

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Councillor wants to kickstart arena deal discussions:

https://www.metronews.ca/news/calgar...th-flames.html

It should be noted that Colley-Urquhart has been an avid, AVID supporter of the Flames and anything they've brought forward. In fact they waited until Nenshi was out of town and she was acting mayor to unveil their Crappy CalgaryNext proposal. Colley-Urquhart went on a mass media tour that same day praising the proposal. Some might accuse her of being a Flames puppet. So it doesn't really surprise me to see her as the one bringing this back to the forefront, perhaps on the Flames behalf(unofficially of course).

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

From the news thread:

It should be noted that Colley-Urquhart has been an avid, AVID supporter of the Flames and anything they've brought forward. In fact they waited until Nenshi was out of town and she was acting mayor to unveil their Crappy CalgaryNext proposal. Colley-Urquhart went on a mass media tour that same day praising the proposal. Some might accuse her of being a Flames puppet. So it doesn't really surprise me to see her as the one bringing this back to the forefront, perhaps on the Flames behalf(unofficially of course).

She was also the Councillor who voted against sharing the Flames and City proposals with the public

[Brick]

Originally Posted by Tyler

She was also the Councillor who voted against sharing the Flames and City proposals with the public

It's amazing that she actually gets elected by the public.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Would this increase the amount of seating as well?

I think the new building is going to have a lower capacity than the Dome does now - 18,500 or thereabouts.

If there's one thing this isn't about, it's getting more people to come to Flames games.

[Freeway]

Colley-Urquhart received donations from a couple owners during the 2013 election cycle, too.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

If there's one thing this isn't about, it's getting more people to come to Flames games.

What it is about is making sure that those who do come to games will get to pay a lot more for the privilege.

[JerryUnderscore]

Originally Posted by getbak

What it is about is making sure that those who do come to games will get to pay a lot more for the privilege.

It's also as if the Flames, being a business, are trying to maximize revenue.

I don't think the city should be paying for the Flames new arena but let's not pretend the Flames are anything other than a corporate trying to make as much money as they possibly can.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by JerryUnderscore

It's also as if the Flames, being a business, are trying to maximize revenue.

But at the same time it is important to remember that the Flames don't need a new arena, the city does.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Currently in talks with the Calgary Flames, huh. I thought the Flames were done negotiating, so I wonder what they're talking about.

As for the design, it looks pretty cool to me. More concourse levels should mean shorter bathroom lines and beer lines, and a smaller overall footprint is also better and should be cheaper. Hopefully this is along the lines of what the city and Flames end up with.

I think one of the issues with Rogers bathroom fiasco is the fact that many of the bathrooms are located in areas general seating aren't allowed in (Loge seating etc.). By all accounts, the prime areas have bathroom capacity - the others are more of the same.

Hopefully, this is considered in a new rink.

For all talk about older/newer arena design, it's easy to see in any sport the stadiums of old are a lot more communal/egalitarian; but i guess you don't maximize revenue that way.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

HNIC:
Hurricanes sale falls through.
Get the sense that Hurricane employees want a new owner and are frustrated.

Financial concerns in Arizona.
There are some concerns that Barroway can remain the sole owner until the end of the season.
Kypreos says Barroway is suffering massive loses.
Team is not for sale and they need arena deal.

Thought this was relevant given all the talk of the Flames moving and the viability of the Calgary market in relation to other NHL cities.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Thought this was relevant given all the talk of the Flames moving and the viability of the Calgary market in relation to other NHL cities.

Man, didn't Barroway just consolidate his ownership buying out the minority (Calgary) ownership group?

[Tyler]

From today's media scrum:

Lucas Meyer‏ @meyer_lucas

Nenshi asked since election if Flames have reached out.

"No."