[PGT] Flames lay another egg. Drop 4-2 to the Wild

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

New lines...

Glass-Backlund-Brouwer
Tkachuk-F.Hamilton-Lazar
Gaudreau-Monahan-Frolik
Ferland-Stajan-Hathaway
extas - Bennett, Versteeg
Injured - Jagr

Lmao

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol okay bud, better sit him next game...

Did I say that?

[Dion]

The forwards need to come back more and help the defence. The gap between them is too large IMO.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Demand that he be better. Or if he can't be how do you put him out there in key moments?
But my point was that people continue to blast GG while Johnny gets away Scott free even though he made the critical bad play in the game.

And your defense of him further confirms that. People have a hard time criticizing Johnny

It was a bad play. There, I criticized him. What more are you looking for?

He's a offensive playmaker and takes chances and sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Crap happens.

This whole "unacceptable" notion is funny to me. If it's unacceptable, how you do you want him held accountable? Benching? How does that serve the best interest of the team?

It sucks that he made a bad play but sometimes crap happens.

[Savvy27]

Did Jagr give any update on his injury?

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Dion

The forwards need to come back more and help the defence. The gap between them is too large IMO.

The Flames have no effective forecheck. Just a lazy fly by.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Do you never have a negative thought about the Flames? Seriously I don’t remember a single one as long as I’ve been on this board. Patience of a saint you have

It’s probably because I choose to not post when the team plays like crap. But I enjoy hockey and I love the Flames. My life is too full to expend much energy getting worked up about something as meaningless as a hockey game. I don’t have time to be negative about this.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Wild GM;6427960[B

]Demand that he be better. Or if he can't be how do you put him out there in key moments?[/B]
But my point was that people continue to blast GG while Johnny gets away Scott free even though he made the critical bad play in the game.

And your defense of him further confirms that. People have a hard time criticizing Johnny

Its like criticizing Smith...sure he could have made a save but he has money in the bank.

Its not like Johnny has cost the Flames more than he helps them...I'm sure he will be shown the video and hopefully learn from it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Finally some one notices his home record is a joke. Your home is your base your identity. If Gulutzen was raking leaves at his house the leaves would best him. His wife would say did u rake the leaves and he would shrug his shoulders and go have a nap.

It has to be a lot harder to get points out of the Saddledome than it is, simply put. Normally I'd be confident they can work their way up to it but last year they weren't dominant at home either outside a month or two.

If the Sutter teams did one thing well, it was that they made the dome a daunting place to play and cleaned up at home. 30 wins was the expectation for a few years there. Should be the same in this flames 'window' if they want to be competitive. They are not even close to on track for that so far.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

It was a bad play. There, I criticized him. What more are you looking for?

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I'm looking for some balance in terms of who get criticized after these losses. Easy to blame the coach and guys like Brouwer and Stajan but teams win and lose on the backs of their best players so perhaps lets start looking in their direction a little more

[calgaryblood]

Bennett and Gaudreau were awful on the tying goal. Bennett more so.

Gaudreau was the goat on the go ahead goal. Trying to be too cute. And Backlund also had a rare bad game.

[Machiavelli]

I fell asleep after the first period, just finished catching up.

Flames controlled the play for the majority of the game, taking advantage of a depleted Wild squad that had played the night before.

I definitely think thought they would take this one, after watching all the soft defensive plays the Wild made in their own zone.

Need help on offense (this is not a recording). It's time to bring Jankowski up.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its like criticizing Smith...sure he could have made a save but he has money in the bank.

Its not like Johnny has cost the Flames more than he helps them...I'm sure he will be shown the video and hopefully learn from it.

Johnny has a number of bad habits that he has yet to show he is learning to improve
But I've said my piece.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

I'm looking for some balance in terms of who get criticized after these losses. Easy to blame the coach and guys like Brouwer and Stajan but teams win and lose on the backs of their best players so perhaps lets start looking in their direction a little more

He has been in on more than 50% of their scoring...sorry but that gives the guy some leeway and we aren't all gonna freak out about one bad play

I agree about Brouwer and Stajan...but there are guys on this team making major mistakes and adding nothing positive.

[memphusk]

Hello Darryl.

[Kybb79]

Darryl Sutter is a boss on the bench!!!

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I fell asleep after the first period, just finished catching up.

Flames controlled the play for the majority of the game, taking advantage of a depleted Wild squad that had played the night before.

I definitely think thought they would take this one, after watching all the soft defensive plays the Wild made in their own zone.

Need help on offense (this is not a recording). It's time to bring Jankowski up.

The Flames do not need help on offense. They need help on defence from the forwards.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

The Flames have no effective forecheck. Just a lazy fly by.

It bugs me when guys like Spurgeon are given all the time in the world to tee up their shot. We seem so slow at getting back in our own end and more focused on waiting for the breakout passes. It's like the start of last season all over again. Only difference is the goaltending.

This would be the slogan in my dressing room if I was the coach..

Forecheck - Backcheck = Paycheck

[FireGilbert]

I agree Gaudreau had a bad game with not enough scoring chances to make up for his giveaways. He always seems to respond after a sub par game though.

Oh and how hot is Monahan? He has such amazing offensive instincts to always be in the right place to score.

[Stay Golden]

This team under Gullet has no identity. They play for easy wins they don't gut it out. Do they even block shots, hard fore check against the D, crash the net, battle out front, cover the point.
They flat out ignore those aspects of hockey. That is directly a result of Gullet.