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[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

All rifles should be limited to one bullet at a time, manually loaded. But I know very little about guns, it just seems like there is no need for a civilian to have a rifle that can shoot more than one bullet.

As a hunter and a terrible shot, I disagree.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Even a hunting rifle will have a 4 bullet mag.

All guns are dangerous, and that's why in a civilized country like Canada you need a license to own and operate one, just like a car which is also dangerous.

Having a semi-auto with a 30 round mag increases the damage a gun can inflict exponentially, and these should be banned for the civilian populations.

I don't think the license alone is enough. There should be mandatory background checks, mental health checks and a required safety course that one has to go through in order to obtain ANY kind of firearm.

If you want to own a AR-15, at the very least it should be VERY, VERY hard to obtain legally.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

As a hunter and a terrible shot, I disagree.

You can have 2 then, because you seem like a nice chap.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Azure

I don't think the license alone is enough. There should be mandatory background checks, mental health checks and a required safety course that one has to go through in order to obtain ANY kind of firearm.

If you want to own a AR-15, at the very least it should be VERY, VERY hard to obtain legally.

You are being an extremist on the other end of the spectrum. If I want to buy a .22 and hunt grouse I need to pay a psychologist a (likely exorbitant) fee for a "mental health check"? How many deaths have occurred from hunting firearms in Canada? If you are serious about saving lives in Canada, you should encourage more stringent drivers training and "mental health checks".

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

You are being an extremist on the other end of the spectrum. If I want to buy a .22 and hunt grouse I need to pay a psychologist a (likely exorbitant) fee for a "mental health check"? How many deaths have occurred from hunting firearms in Canada? If you are serious about saving lives in Canada, you should encourage more stringent drivers training and "mental health checks".

Why not both?

Mental health self reporting is already a component of licensing in Canada.

[Baron von Kriterium]

[QUOTE=CroFlames;6396338]A select fire between semi and fully auto makes it a true assault rifle. A pure semi-auto doesn't constitute an assault rifle, but it's mostly just semantics.
QUOTE]

I disagree. The two features that characterize an assault rifle are: 1) long barrel; and 2) detachable, high capacity magazine. The ability to change magazines quickly is what is required to conduct military-style assaults.

You can take away a gun’s folding stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor, select fire mode, and use a nice wood finish, and it is still an assault rifle if it can accept a high capacity magazine.

[dino7c]

There is no point to a gun debate...killing first graders wasn't enough, this won't be either

in fact gun laws are going to get less strict

[loob job]

Originally Posted by dino7c

There is no point to a gun debate...killing first graders wasn't enough, this won't be either

in fact gun laws are going to get less strict

Agreed, nothing will ever be done, we will have this same conversation in a month or two after the next massacre. It's sad.

[sureLoss]

CTV - Ian White @CTVIanWhite
34 y.o. Tara Roe of Okotoks, Alberta confirmed dead in Las Vegas shooting. She's survived by her husband and 2 young sons.

[CroFlames]

So the action doesn't matter? A bolt action .22 would be considered an assault rifle if you machined a 20 round mag for it?

I fear this kind of thinking is what gives fuel to the pro-gun extremists in the US when people who advocate for common sense gun laws start spouting off ridiculous claims like yours.

[ernie]

It was a horrible event and I was gutted that this happened yet again. Finding out I had a friend who was shot twice somehow still managed to make it worse. Thankfully she is "fine" and recovering.

[Baron von Kriterium]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

So the action doesn't matter? A bolt action .22 would be considered an assault rifle if you machined a 20 round mag for it?

I fear this kind of thinking is what gives fuel to the pro-gun extremists in the US when people who advocate for common sense gun laws start spouting off ridiculous claims like yours.

The definition you provided, amigo, is the one the NRA likes to use.

[CaptainCrunch]

The only way to make the Americans change thier gun laws is to effect them financially.

If everyone stopped traveling to the States and crashed heir tourism industry I bet the tourist lobby would go after the NRA with the rabid viciousness of a insane wolverine.

The US makes about 224 billion dollars from tourism dollars. The US gun industry is about 13 billion dollars.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ernie

It was a horrible event and I was gutted that this happened yet again. Finding out I had a friend who was shot twice somehow still managed to make it worse. Thankfully she is "fine" and recovering.

Glad your friend is fine.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by Azure

I don't think the license alone is enough. There should be mandatory background checks, mental health checks and a required safety course that one has to go through in order to obtain ANY kind of firearm.

If you want to own a AR-15, at the very least it should be VERY, VERY hard to obtain legally.

Can't speak about the States, but here in Canada, the bolded part is done daily to any firearm licence holder in Canada for both restricted and non restricted licences. Safety course is already required, regardless of class of licence.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The only way to make the Americans change thier gun laws is to effect them financially.

If everyone stopped traveling to the States and crashed heir tourism industry I bet the tourist lobby would go after the NRA with the rabid viciousness of a insane wolverine.

The US makes about 224 billion dollars from tourism dollars. The US gun industry is about 13 billion dollars.

The fix is easier than that.

Originally Posted by Eric Benet

If every black adult male in the U.S. bought & registered a semi-automatic rifle tomorrow, Congress would Pass gun control laws by Friday.

https://twitter.com/ebenet/status/915076212199874560

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

So the action doesn't matter? A bolt action .22 would be considered an assault rifle if you machined a 20 round mag for it?

a shooter can still put rounds down range at a high volume even with bolt action.

[corporatejay]

I really think the best thing to do is debate the semantics of assault rifle. Look, if it's designed to kill a lot of things quickly, then it should be illegal.

I actually don't know if this article is satire but if you can't kill a bunch of rabbits without an AR15 then buy your ####ing rabbits from the store like the rest of humanity.

http://time.com/4390506/gun-control-...omatic-rifles/

[red sky]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

CTV - Ian White @CTVIanWhite
34 y.o. Tara Roe of Okotoks, Alberta confirmed dead in Las Vegas shooting. She's survived by her husband and 2 young sons.

RIP, you deserved better.

This just saddens me so much that her sons have to grow up without a mother. Those poor children. My heart goes out to the family.

Having young kids, I am sickened at the thought of something similar happening to myself or my wife. Can't live in fear of these things but more than ever, these terrible thoughts cross my mind. We are not immune to this here, as the Edmonton incident showed us. There will be a time where something bigger happens in Canada.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

So the action doesn't matter? A bolt action .22 would be considered an assault rifle if you machined a 20 round mag for it?

I fear this kind of thinking is what gives fuel to the pro-gun extremists in the US when people who advocate for common sense gun laws start spouting off ridiculous claims like yours.

Why does it matter? You can turn this gopher gun


into this easily.


The ONLY reason to do it is to make it look like an assault rifle.